M1906 Russian Luger - What to look for???

sheepherder · 11-17-2009, 12:48 PM

Regardless of what anyone else wants to call it...Exactly what should a prospective buyer look for??? I will be looking for one (as, I'm sure, are others)...

So far, I've got the crossed rifles on the chamber hood and Cyrillic characters on the extractor and safety...

Grip safety; no stock lug...Strawed trigger/safety/mag button/takedown lever..."Long" [reverse?] thumb safety...

Tula Arsenal proof??? I can't quite make it out...looks like a triangle with a slash in it??? On barrel only???

DWM toggle only???

Is there a distinctive set of grips??? Would the grips be marked with Cyrillic characters???

Any other odd or different features???

Thank you for any help!!!

If anyone knows any obvious fake characteristics (like being build on a later grip frame), I'd appreciate the information...

(And yes, I am using Search...Here and at Jan Still's site...Lots of contradictory information...)

MFC · 11-18-2009, 01:59 AM

Rich,
I've read several times in past posts that 'almost' all the "crossed rifle" Lugers are fake... Waffenfabrik USA.

Ron Wood · 11-18-2009, 02:09 AM

The "triangle" with a slash that you refer to is incorrectly identified as a Tula arsenal proof. It is actually a shield shape with a slash in it and is a DWM barrel "proof" (inspector's mark) found on several variations of Lugers. The grips should be serial numbered to the gun (last two digits) and do not have Cyrillic characters. DWM toggle only. There may be a DWM inspector's "flaming bomb" mark in the front frame well and a very tiny "3" in the rear frame well that could be a Cyrillic character that looks like a 3.

Lugerdoc · 11-25-2009, 10:35 AM

The "cross rifle" Russian lugers are just your standard M1906 type DWM made short frame 9mms with the crest on chamber, Russian marked extractor and safety area, in their own contract serial numbered range of about 1 to 500. I've also observed another 20 commerical type luger that is either a mistake or might be consider "Russian". The only thing different about it is that the N under the crown proofing on the left receiver, is stamped backwards, like some sort of Cyrillic letter. Has anyone else observed one of these? TH

11-17-2009, 12:48 PM	#1
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,183 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	M1906 Russian Luger - What to look for??? Regardless of what anyone else wants to call it...Exactly what should a prospective buyer look for??? I will be looking for one (as, I'm sure, are others)... So far, I've got the crossed rifles on the chamber hood and Cyrillic characters on the extractor and safety... Grip safety; no stock lug...Strawed trigger/safety/mag button/takedown lever..."Long" [reverse?] thumb safety... Tula Arsenal proof??? I can't quite make it out...looks like a triangle with a slash in it??? On barrel only??? DWM toggle only??? Is there a distinctive set of grips??? Would the grips be marked with Cyrillic characters??? Any other odd or different features??? Thank you for any help!!! If anyone knows any obvious fake characteristics (like being build on a later grip frame), I'd appreciate the information... (And yes, I am using Search...Here and at Jan Still's site...Lots of contradictory information...)

11-18-2009, 01:59 AM	#2
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Rich, I've read several times in past posts that 'almost' all the "crossed rifle" Lugers are fake... Waffenfabrik USA. __________________ Mike C.

11-18-2009, 02:09 AM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	The "triangle" with a slash that you refer to is incorrectly identified as a Tula arsenal proof. It is actually a shield shape with a slash in it and is a DWM barrel "proof" (inspector's mark) found on several variations of Lugers. The grips should be serial numbered to the gun (last two digits) and do not have Cyrillic characters. DWM toggle only. There may be a DWM inspector's "flaming bomb" mark in the front frame well and a very tiny "3" in the rear frame well that could be a Cyrillic character that looks like a 3. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction Last edited by Ron Wood; 11-18-2009 at 09:39 PM.

11-25-2009, 10:35 AM	#4
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	The "cross rifle" Russian lugers are just your standard M1906 type DWM made short frame 9mms with the crest on chamber, Russian marked extractor and safety area, in their own contract serial numbered range of about 1 to 500. I've also observed another 20 commerical type luger that is either a mistake or might be consider "Russian". The only thing different about it is that the N under the crown proofing on the left receiver, is stamped backwards, like some sort of Cyrillic letter. Has anyone else observed one of these? TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 [email protected]