P08 1941/42 Luger

lisako · 02-28-2012, 06:40 PM

Hi everyone,

I am new to this site and hope that someone can help me on a luger I am looking to purchase. I am most interested in authenticity and have been offered the following luger:

P08 1941/42 all matching parts
black widow in 98% condition
2 mags, not matching
original "officer holster"
9 mm
all parts stamped

The asking price is $2250.00

Any thoughts on whether this is a good deal or if I should look elsewhere?

Any help is very much appreciated!

Lisa

alanint · 02-28-2012, 08:39 PM

Too high.

That assemblage, (supposing the holster is not rare) should bring in the $1,500-$1,800 ballpark.

mrerick · 02-28-2012, 09:18 PM

Doug's estimate also assumes that everything is correct. Original finish; not messed with.

That means original WW-II holster, not a reproduction. It also means original bakelite grips not a reproduction. I can't imagine what "all parts stamped" means.

It's hard to even guess these things without a good look at it, so pictures would be needed to be of much help. Even with those, it can be hard to estimate finish.

Marc

lisako · 02-28-2012, 10:13 PM

Thank you. I think it's high on the price too and it's definitely higher than I wanted to spend. I just was trying to say that the numbers all matched. Sorry I'm a newbie at this, this would be my first luger!

Edward Tinker · 02-28-2012, 10:19 PM

ok, to be 'correct' there is no actual variation called a 'black widow' / in addition, what is an 'officers holster"? No such thing

So, you might want to jump on this, or you might want to read and buy some books to know more about lugers

.

Ed

MFC · 02-29-2012, 01:06 AM

41/42's are hard to find and fetch much higher prices than more common variations. IMO If everything is correct, the price is low.

dz · 02-29-2012, 08:53 AM

Fair price for a 41/42. As Mike said they are not common. David

guns3545 · 02-29-2012, 08:53 AM

Lisa,

I don't want to confuse things but, there is no such thing as a Luger marked with 1941 on the chamber and 42 on the toggle link. Maybe I am being overly pedantic.

But as noted there might be a 41 on the chamber and 42 on the toggle, a rather rare gun. Or 41 on the chamber and byf on the toggle, a more common gun.

Given the rather loose descriptions, provided I am sure by the seller, e.g. Black Widow and "officer's holster", I just want to make sure the gun is truly righteous.

John

alvin · 02-29-2012, 09:28 AM

If it's the first Luger, and the plan is to get one or two Lugers, it does not make sense to chase a scarce 42 factory code Luger. That's for dedicated collectors who care those minor difference. For regular collector (also collect other guns, but need one or two Lugers), a common byf 41 or 42 will be a perfect choice, as long as it's all original and all matching.

And, what if becoming a dedicated Luger collector in future.... no problem, byf code becomes a must in that scenario. Not wasted.

Mike Z · 02-29-2012, 10:18 AM

IMO. If all matched inside and out decent original finish I would pay that and know I got a deal.
Mike Z.

02-28-2012, 06:40 PM	#1
lisako New User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	P08 1941/42 Luger Hi everyone, I am new to this site and hope that someone can help me on a luger I am looking to purchase. I am most interested in authenticity and have been offered the following luger: P08 1941/42 all matching parts black widow in 98% condition 2 mags, not matching original "officer holster" 9 mm all parts stamped The asking price is $2250.00 Any thoughts on whether this is a good deal or if I should look elsewhere? Any help is very much appreciated! Lisa

02-28-2012, 09:18 PM	#3
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Doug's estimate also assumes that everything is correct. Original finish; not messed with. That means original WW-II holster, not a reproduction. It also means original bakelite grips not a reproduction. I can't imagine what "all parts stamped" means. It's hard to even guess these things without a good look at it, so pictures would be needed to be of much help. Even with those, it can be hard to estimate finish. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

02-28-2012, 10:19 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	ok, to be 'correct' there is no actual variation called a 'black widow' / in addition, what is an 'officers holster"? No such thing So, you might want to jump on this, or you might want to read and buy some books to know more about lugers . Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

02-29-2012, 01:06 AM	#6
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	41/42's are hard to find and fetch much higher prices than more common variations. IMO If everything is correct, the price is low. __________________ Mike C.

02-29-2012, 08:53 AM	#8
guns3545 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 437 Thanks: 655 Thanked 492 Times in 218 Posts	Is it really a 1941/42? Lisa, I don't want to confuse things but, there is no such thing as a Luger marked with 1941 on the chamber and 42 on the toggle link. Maybe I am being overly pedantic. But as noted there might be a 41 on the chamber and 42 on the toggle, a rather rare gun. Or 41 on the chamber and byf on the toggle, a more common gun. Given the rather loose descriptions, provided I am sure by the seller, e.g. Black Widow and "officer's holster", I just want to make sure the gun is truly righteous. John

02-28-2012, 08:39 PM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Too high. That assemblage, (supposing the holster is not rare) should bring in the $1,500-$1,800 ballpark.

02-28-2012, 10:13 PM	#4
lisako New User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you. I think it's high on the price too and it's definitely higher than I wanted to spend. I just was trying to say that the numbers all matched. Sorry I'm a newbie at this, this would be my first luger!

02-29-2012, 08:53 AM	#7
dz Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 259 Thanks: 1 Thanked 55 Times in 39 Posts	Fair price for a 41/42. As Mike said they are not common. David

02-29-2012, 09:28 AM	#9
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	If it's the first Luger, and the plan is to get one or two Lugers, it does not make sense to chase a scarce 42 factory code Luger. That's for dedicated collectors who care those minor difference. For regular collector (also collect other guns, but need one or two Lugers), a common byf 41 or 42 will be a perfect choice, as long as it's all original and all matching. And, what if becoming a dedicated Luger collector in future.... no problem, byf code becomes a must in that scenario. Not wasted.

02-29-2012, 10:18 AM	#10
Mike Z User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 180 Thanks: 51 Thanked 79 Times in 39 Posts	IMO. If all matched inside and out decent original finish I would pay that and know I got a deal. Mike Z.