Is This a VoPo refurb

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Okay guys,

My white whale is a WW1, double dated, VoPo marked, and grip strap marked, shooter grade Luger.

Okay:
http://www.gunrunnerauctions.com/lis...efault&group=3

scroll down to Lot #151,

my concerns: no import mark-but seemingly defaced VoPo shield (but maybe one on the takedown lever), upper not matching to lower (not forced matched), barrel not an EG replacement,,,,smells like a Frankengun but maybe not.

Anyone think this is a true E. German rework?

I can only afford one luger, so any help to guide me right would be helpful.

[Dwight Gruber]

The pictures are not detailed enough to make a determination.

At $630, 19 bidders, and two days to go, I recommend you save your money.

--Dwight

[Andyd]

Remember, a lot of the VoPo pistols were given to other units with less expertise. It is very well possible, that the gun can like that from a unit.

I would go for a Vopo P.08 that has been more carefully and thoroughly rebuilt - and cared for. Since I shoot my VoPos, I prefer the newer Mauser made guns.

[Andyd]

Look for one that will be pleasing you. I am not very demanding when it comes to Lugers, I want them to work. I also do not want a complete mutt and gun put together indiscriminately by someone who did not care.

For your reference, this is what they look like.

[www.prussia.us]

Thanks AndyD, she is a nice one.

I have been looking for quite some time, just usually miss out when the opportunity arises, and I get confused as to why some have the vopo shield, some do not, of course some did but it is defaced, some (a few) do not have the bullseye grips-most do, the color of the bullseye ranges from black, to brown, to a reddish look, some have the commercial Nitro-proofed barrel, some have their original, some have a nice shiny finnish, some have a uniform dual, and some are just worn, so it is hard to keep all this straight, but I appreciate the input.

[Andyd]

Keep in mind that the Volkspolizei was not the only armed unit having P.08s. The Betriebskampfgruppen, the armed units of the factories, had some directly issued and later was given surplus police guns.

Add the fact, that Russia had given many guns that had seen various repairs and you will end up with an extremely wide variety of finishes and repairs. Those versions are as individual as the men that administered them.

One tell tale sign, is the E.G. made take down lever, numbered to the gun.

[Wilhelm]

Here are a couple of my Easties for reference. One of them has a DDR made slide and both have DDR barrels (one dated one not). Just about anything goes with Easties.

[glock30]

Odd the reciever on the third to the bottom pick looks like from a Mauser K Date. My opinion, being that VOPO's are like post 45 French refurbs, I owuld say perhaps, or it could just be something someone threw together, the forced matching numbers is odd.But the French, who knows what they did to all of them, we need Vlim on this, But who knows with these things, they need to talk.

[Wilhelm]

Force matching is not just common on Easties, it's the norm. Yes, the slide on that one is from a K date. I bought it from Sarco back in the early 90's when these first hit the market.

[Andyd]

Nice pistols Wilhelm!

We also share the affection for the P88, I see. From what I learnt from a German collector of E.G. P.08 pistols, the replacement barrels were made in Czechoslovakia. They also made P38 barrels in WWII.

[www.prussia.us]

Great pics!