Undated Simson & Suhl Army issue P08

CLIFTON · 07-20-2013, 08:24 PM

This was picked up this morning at OGCA: all matching but the magazine which is a bit later s.n. S&S issue:

lugerholsterrepair · 07-20-2013, 09:16 PM

Clifton, Picked up? I bet you floated out of the building after laying down that much cash outa your wallet!

CLIFTON · 07-20-2013, 10:20 PM

It's OK, Jerry, a Simson, once in while...

Edward Tinker · 07-20-2013, 10:48 PM

Looks like a nice one. What are the markings on the right?

What is an S&S issue?

CLIFTON · 07-20-2013, 11:23 PM

Here are the markings:

sheepherder · 07-20-2013, 11:43 PM

I hope you can get that white printing off the sides...maybe 50 grit sandpaper...

What's OGCA???

CLIFTON · 07-20-2013, 11:50 PM

OGCA is Ohio Gun Collectors Association

Anybody who does not like the white printing is free to use the sandpaper- I don't mind.

lugersrkewl · 07-21-2013, 03:12 AM

Wow

sheepherder · 07-21-2013, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CLIFTON

OGCA is Ohio Gun Collectors Association

Ah, that's cool. A moderator usually will ask you to put your location in your profile, so that nearby members can offer any help you might need (or if you're buying/selling, facilitate transfers).

I have no idea why you would see a need to mark your pics as being from a private collection...But sure, why not???

Your Luger looks good, although that fourth proof mark is somewhat unusual...Lightly struck, and uniformly shaped...I am the Devil's Advocate of the forum...

CLIFTON · 07-21-2013, 09:04 AM

Thank you for your concern, but I am not worried about the fourth proof mark as long as there are two others on the lug.

Edward Tinker · 07-21-2013, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CLIFTON

Thank you for your concern, but I am not worried about the fourth proof mark as long as there are two others on the lug.

I expect to see three acceptance and a final proof mark. Technically you have four but the small eagle is what? Since I think you know?

Edward Tinker · 07-21-2013, 10:30 AM

BTW, very nice that it is unit marked

I have this one in my database;
8495 E6 E33 E6 E / Simson & Co Suhl / unit marking: Za.K.57.
and these around yours

CLIFTON · 07-21-2013, 10:18 PM

Ed,

I did not think what the small eagle is about and also wonder what the unit marking stands for?

Thank you

Actually, small eagle maybe a repair mark?

Edward Tinker · 07-21-2013, 11:54 PM

No solid proof, but I am sure it was probably a senior inspector, because you find it commonly, but not all the time, and they use the eagle RC for parts that did not pass first muster.

I will have to check on the marking.

07-20-2013, 08:24 PM	#1
CLIFTON User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: USA Posts: 88 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts	Undated S & S Army issue P08 This was picked up this morning at OGCA: all matching but the magazine which is a bit later s.n. S&S issue: Last edited by CLIFTON; 05-25-2014 at 09:01 PM.

07-20-2013, 09:16 PM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Clifton, Picked up? I bet you floated out of the building after laying down that much cash outa your wallet! __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

07-20-2013, 10:48 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Looks like a nice one. What are the markings on the right? What is an S&S issue? __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-20-2013, 11:23 PM	#5
CLIFTON User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: USA Posts: 88 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts	S&S undated Here are the markings: Last edited by CLIFTON; 07-30-2013 at 02:20 AM.

07-20-2013, 11:43 PM	#6
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,183 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	I hope you can get that white printing off the sides...maybe 50 grit sandpaper... What's OGCA??? __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

07-20-2013, 10:20 PM	#3
CLIFTON User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: USA Posts: 88 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts	It's OK, Jerry, a Simson, once in while...

07-20-2013, 11:50 PM	#7
CLIFTON User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: USA Posts: 88 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts	OGCA is Ohio Gun Collectors Association Anybody who does not like the white printing is free to use the sandpaper- I don't mind.

07-21-2013, 03:12 AM	#8
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	Wow

07-21-2013, 09:04 AM	#10
CLIFTON User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: USA Posts: 88 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts	Thank you for your concern, but I am not worried about the fourth proof mark as long as there are two others on the lug.

07-21-2013, 10:30 AM	#12
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	BTW, very nice that it is unit marked I have this one in my database; 8495 E6 E33 E6 E / Simson & Co Suhl / unit marking: Za.K.57. and these around yours Attached Thumbnails

07-21-2013, 10:18 PM	#13
CLIFTON User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: USA Posts: 88 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts	Ed, I did not think what the small eagle is about and also wonder what the unit marking stands for? Thank you Actually, small eagle maybe a repair mark?

07-21-2013, 11:54 PM	#14
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	No solid proof, but I am sure it was probably a senior inspector, because you find it commonly, but not all the time, and they use the eagle RC for parts that did not pass first muster. I will have to check on the marking. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV