Repro Navy sights?

nukem556 · 08-04-2010, 03:03 PM

I'd like to build a fake Navy cause I think one would make a fun, accurate range gun.....an original is not in my plans.... from what I've seen, I restored my MGB for less than the cost of a nice real one! I understand there were reasonably priced repro Navy toggles available at some point, but after scouring the internet, I can't seem to find a source....any ideas?

Norme · 08-04-2010, 04:13 PM

Hi Bob, The last Navy rear toggle that I saw auctioned off went for over $700.00. Simpson's is selling a fake Navy for $1,495.00 (see link). I doubt you could put one together for much less. Regards, Norm

http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...3e8ceae206d88a

George Anderson · 08-04-2010, 05:41 PM

Last Navy rear toggle I had was last year and I think I sold it for about $400. It was not a repro.

Lugerdoc · 08-14-2010, 09:10 AM

I do have both types of repro Navy rear toggle/sight assy available @$500 each + $10 insured priority S&H. Tom

Frater · 07-02-2013, 06:08 AM

I'm waking up an old thread.

I've heard rumours of german repro navy toggles.
Does anyone know who makes/sells them and how to get in touch?
I know that Lugerdoc and CMR sells the parts but living in EU my wallet complains against paying double overheads for the parts.

Grimpo · 07-17-2013, 07:29 AM

I have purchased a reproduction of the navy rear sight at Germany about 3 years ago. If I remember good, price was about EUR 400.

Link to seller bellow:

http://www.cds-ehrenreich.de/ersatzteile/

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While I have previous (and really bad) experiences with another two replicas of this navy toogle sight, I would like to warning anybody from purchasing this two replicas:

1. Nice looking, machined replica. If you will see that the grid at toogle is turned by 90 degrees, than you should to know that this replica doesn´t have any heat treatment. I fired about 35 low power target rounds. After that the hairline crack has been on the toogle.

2. Pood looking replica, probably casted to the sand form? Really poor and cheep look. Makes you to vomit when you look at that parody to the toogle grid. Also without heat treatment.
I tested it with 50 rounds of factory ammo. It works, found no crack, bud I took it away and never install again.

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That repro from CDS is simply great. Perhaps there is little bit more lpi at the grid than at the original, but it looks and works great. Diamond file for fitting necessary. It´s has damn good heat treatment. Factory bluing is poor, stained and brown. Rebluing needed. The "V" cut is little bit smaller for me, I like it more deep.

I do not know why, but cca last year those toogle repro is not on the list.

While I am from Czech Republic and I already had been in contact with CDS, if anybody here is interested about, I can ask CDS if there is or will be some for sale again.

ithacaartist · 07-18-2013, 11:50 AM

Zbynek,

One of these would be fun to have--if the price were right...

By all means, keep us posted concerning their potential availability!

Grimpo · 07-18-2013, 12:59 PM

I´ll check it. Now I mean that CDS is suplied by this company:

http://www.waffen-werle.de/new%20lug...e%20marine.htm

Will ask both.

Jack Lawman · 07-18-2013, 04:39 PM

They've got a SWEEEET 1937 S/42 artillery on there.

It's not original however, the sideplate is a mismatch!

Jack

Grimpo · 07-19-2013, 06:20 AM

So, CDS Ehrenreich is out of the game about Navy rear toogle repro. No more info.

Lugerdoc · 07-19-2013, 09:27 AM

I do have several of the blued cast ones in stock. TH

Grimpo · 07-22-2013, 11:46 AM

No Navy rear toggle availabe at Waffen - Werle.

08-04-2010, 03:03 PM	#1
nukem556 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 625 Thanks: 35 Thanked 168 Times in 107 Posts	Repro Navy sights? I'd like to build a fake Navy cause I think one would make a fun, accurate range gun.....an original is not in my plans.... from what I've seen, I restored my MGB for less than the cost of a nice real one! I understand there were reasonably priced repro Navy toggles available at some point, but after scouring the internet, I can't seem to find a source....any ideas?

08-14-2010, 09:10 AM	#4
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	I do have both types of repro Navy rear toggle/sight assy available @$500 each + $10 insured priority S&H. Tom __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 [email protected]

07-17-2013, 07:29 AM	#6
Grimpo User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 13 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I have purchased a reproduction of the navy rear sight at Germany about 3 years ago. If I remember good, price was about EUR 400. Link to seller bellow: http://www.cds-ehrenreich.de/ersatzteile/ --- While I have previous (and really bad) experiences with another two replicas of this navy toogle sight, I would like to warning anybody from purchasing this two replicas: 1. Nice looking, machined replica. If you will see that the grid at toogle is turned by 90 degrees, than you should to know that this replica doesn´t have any heat treatment. I fired about 35 low power target rounds. After that the hairline crack has been on the toogle. 2. Pood looking replica, probably casted to the sand form? Really poor and cheep look. Makes you to vomit when you look at that parody to the toogle grid. Also without heat treatment. I tested it with 50 rounds of factory ammo. It works, found no crack, bud I took it away and never install again. --- That repro from CDS is simply great. Perhaps there is little bit more lpi at the grid than at the original, but it looks and works great. Diamond file for fitting necessary. It´s has damn good heat treatment. Factory bluing is poor, stained and brown. Rebluing needed. The "V" cut is little bit smaller for me, I like it more deep. I do not know why, but cca last year those toogle repro is not on the list. While I am from Czech Republic and I already had been in contact with CDS, if anybody here is interested about, I can ask CDS if there is or will be some for sale again. Last edited by Grimpo; 07-18-2013 at 12:56 PM.

07-18-2013, 11:50 AM	#7
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,347 Thanks: 7,285 Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts	Zbynek, One of these would be fun to have--if the price were right... By all means, keep us posted concerning their potential availability! __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

07-18-2013, 04:39 PM	#9
Jack Lawman User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Near NYC Posts: 428 Thanks: 30 Thanked 64 Times in 37 Posts	They've got a SWEEEET 1937 S/42 artillery on there. It's not original however, the sideplate is a mismatch! Jack __________________ Why do you guys hate black circles so much?

08-04-2010, 04:13 PM	#2
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Bob, The last Navy rear toggle that I saw auctioned off went for over $700.00. Simpson's is selling a fake Navy for $1,495.00 (see link). I doubt you could put one together for much less. Regards, Norm http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...3e8ceae206d88a

08-04-2010, 05:41 PM	#3
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,529 Times in 787 Posts	Last Navy rear toggle I had was last year and I think I sold it for about $400. It was not a repro.

07-02-2013, 06:08 AM	#5
Frater User Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I'm waking up an old thread. I've heard rumours of german repro navy toggles. Does anyone know who makes/sells them and how to get in touch? I know that Lugerdoc and CMR sells the parts but living in EU my wallet complains against paying double overheads for the parts.

07-18-2013, 12:59 PM	#8
Grimpo User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 13 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I´ll check it. Now I mean that CDS is suplied by this company: http://www.waffen-werle.de/new%20lug...e%20marine.htm Will ask both.

07-19-2013, 06:20 AM	#10
Grimpo User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 13 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	So, CDS Ehrenreich is out of the game about Navy rear toogle repro. No more info.

07-19-2013, 09:27 AM	#11
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	I do have several of the blued cast ones in stock. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 [email protected]

07-22-2013, 11:46 AM	#12
Grimpo User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 13 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	No Navy rear toggle availabe at Waffen - Werle.