Need advice on Luger

virafp · 09-09-2013, 10:41 AM

Hi..I am trying to get my hands on a Luger. The top of teh barrel is stamped 1914 and on the side are the numbers 5782. Everywhere else on the gun in several places is the number 82, so I believe I have a matching numbers gun? Any idea what it's worth?

Thanks for the help.

mrerick · 09-09-2013, 11:29 AM

To be matching, all the normally numbered parts need to be checked.

I can't really judge the finish from your photos, but if it's all original, this could be a collectable Luger.

Take future photos outdoors in indirect (shaded) sunlight. Set your digital camera on closeup and use a tripod and the self timer to eliminate camera shake.
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Get closeups of the serial number and suffix letter on the front of the frame and on the bottom of the barrel. The suffix letter is part of the serial number.

If a "shooter" (any part mismatched and/or refinished) it's worth $900-$1000. If a collectable with 95% finish it's worth $1500+.

Marc

DavidJayUden · 09-09-2013, 12:27 PM

Lots of small numbered internal parts to be checked for numbers, including the grips, firing pin, etc, etc. Search youtube if you need help with further disassembly/reassembly.
From what I can see it looks like a nice early WW1 gun. I'd come in a bit lower than $1500+, but still nice.
Welcome aboard!
dju

George Anderson · 09-09-2013, 01:42 PM

Is it a DWM or an Erfurt? That will effect the value.

DavidJayUden · 09-09-2013, 02:38 PM

George:
Looks too nice to be an Erfurt...
dju

Sergio Natali · 09-09-2013, 04:05 PM

I cannot see much from these photos, anyway to be matching, all the numbered parts should be checked.

For what I can see your L uger seems in good conditions, but I would say more detailed photos are needed.

virafp · 09-09-2013, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Anderson

Is it a DWM or an Erfurt? That will effect the value.

Could you elaborate - I am new to this gun, so not sure what this means?

Thanks

DavidJayUden · 09-09-2013, 06:24 PM

Looking down on the gun, there will be a maker's name on the "toggle", either a scrolling "DWM" of a boldly printed "ERFURT" with a crown.

alanint · 09-09-2013, 07:19 PM

No typical Erfurt proofs on sideplate, Takedown lever and grip screws.

virafp · 09-12-2013, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Anderson

Is it a DWM or an Erfurt? That will effect the value.

Its a DWM

09-09-2013, 10:41 AM	#1
virafp User Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Need advice on Luger Hi..I am trying to get my hands on a Luger. The top of teh barrel is stamped 1914 and on the side are the numbers 5782. Everywhere else on the gun in several places is the number 82, so I believe I have a matching numbers gun? Any idea what it's worth? Thanks for the help. Attached Thumbnails

09-09-2013, 11:29 AM	#2
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	To be matching, all the normally numbered parts need to be checked. I can't really judge the finish from your photos, but if it's all original, this could be a collectable Luger. Take future photos outdoors in indirect (shaded) sunlight. Set your digital camera on closeup and use a tripod and the self timer to eliminate camera shake. T Get closeups of the serial number and suffix letter on the front of the frame and on the bottom of the barrel. The suffix letter is part of the serial number. If a "shooter" (any part mismatched and/or refinished) it's worth $900-$1000. If a collectable with 95% finish it's worth $1500+. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

09-09-2013, 04:05 PM	#6
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	I cannot see much from these photos, anyway to be matching, all the numbered parts should be checked. For what I can see your L uger seems in good conditions, but I would say more detailed photos are needed. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

09-09-2013, 12:27 PM	#3
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Lots of small numbered internal parts to be checked for numbers, including the grips, firing pin, etc, etc. Search youtube if you need help with further disassembly/reassembly. From what I can see it looks like a nice early WW1 gun. I'd come in a bit lower than $1500+, but still nice. Welcome aboard! dju

09-09-2013, 01:42 PM	#4
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,529 Times in 787 Posts	Is it a DWM or an Erfurt? That will effect the value.

09-09-2013, 02:38 PM	#5
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	George: Looks too nice to be an Erfurt... dju

09-09-2013, 06:24 PM	#8
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Looking down on the gun, there will be a maker's name on the "toggle", either a scrolling "DWM" of a boldly printed "ERFURT" with a crown.

09-09-2013, 07:19 PM	#9
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	No typical Erfurt proofs on sideplate, Takedown lever and grip screws.