Long Barrel .22 Conversion - Page 2

sheepherder · 02-05-2015, 12:00 AM

Ed's toggle isn't drilled for either axle pin retaining pin, but the Gun Digest schematic clearly shows them [#15 & #18]. It also shows the axle pins having grooves that the retaining pins fit into. Ed's pin (the one that fell out) was not grooved.

Cost cutting measure???

Diver6106 · 02-05-2015, 12:40 AM

I doubt 'cost cutting', as this kit has the quality finger grips on the toggle that are like the original, instead of the cheaper lug grips. I have the lug grips, but it has the locking pins. There is also a variation in 22LR mags. Shown in this kit is the longer mag, but there is also one that only held about 5 rounds. Just variations in the manufactures.

ithacaartist · 02-05-2015, 04:51 AM

Rich, thanks for posting that exploded view pic. Along with what's being discussed, it also confirms my suspicions of how the extractor is shaped, and is installed. Mine wouldn't come out for a cleaning when I tried. I'd deduced pretty much what's shown, but the confirmation will help this project when I take it up again! The kit shown is the earlier style, the SE/08. Nor is mine drilled as illustrated.

There's another difference in styles of mags for the kits. The mags in the kits without the replacement ejector have extended right, rear feed lip, which shows up where the ejector would, and flicks the shell out the same way.

ithacaartist · 02-05-2015, 08:43 PM

No retaining pins here.

02-05-2015, 12:00 AM	#21
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,183 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	Ed's toggle isn't drilled for either axle pin retaining pin, but the Gun Digest schematic clearly shows them [#15 & #18]. It also shows the axle pins having grooves that the retaining pins fit into. Ed's pin (the one that fell out) was not grooved. Cost cutting measure??? __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

02-05-2015, 04:51 AM	#23
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,347 Thanks: 7,285 Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts	Rich, thanks for posting that exploded view pic. Along with what's being discussed, it also confirms my suspicions of how the extractor is shaped, and is installed. Mine wouldn't come out for a cleaning when I tried. I'd deduced pretty much what's shown, but the confirmation will help this project when I take it up again! The kit shown is the earlier style, the SE/08. Nor is mine drilled as illustrated. There's another difference in styles of mags for the kits. The mags in the kits without the replacement ejector have extended right, rear feed lip, which shows up where the ejector would, and flicks the shell out the same way. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

02-05-2015, 08:43 PM	#24
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,347 Thanks: 7,285 Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts	The SE 08/2 No retaining pins here. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

02-05-2015, 12:40 AM	#22
Diver6106 User Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Mt. Vernon VA Posts: 244 Thanks: 1,424 Thanked 117 Times in 75 Posts	I doubt 'cost cutting', as this kit has the quality finger grips on the toggle that are like the original, instead of the cheaper lug grips. I have the lug grips, but it has the locking pins. There is also a variation in 22LR mags. Shown in this kit is the longer mag, but there is also one that only held about 5 rounds. Just variations in the manufactures.