Toggle Lock (PICTURES ADDED)

Thor · 03-08-2016, 01:58 PM

Working on A Eagle Eagle Luger and during detail stripping, I found the interior leg of the toggle lock is broken and missing. I have another clients toggle lock to look at for general comparisons. I have contaced Tom Heller, Hugh Clark, GT, and many parts sites looking for one. I have entertained the idea of having one made or buying a replacement or having the broken one repaired. Any ideas, drawings, etc. Thanks. This Luger is restored and all I miss is the toggle lock

sheepherder · 03-08-2016, 03:36 PM

I believe the blueprint for the M1900 toggle lock is on page 1745 of TBLAP DVD. The toggle is on pg 1744.

Tomathvl · 03-08-2016, 04:10 PM

Thor
are you talking about the toggle hold down that has a dovetail and that fits in the frame? If so I have one.
Tom

sheepherder · 03-08-2016, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Thor

...I found the interior leg of the toggle lock is broken and missing...

Sounds more like this piece [red line]...I would think Tom would have one...

Thor · 03-09-2016, 01:29 PM

No Tom, the strawed part that resides inside the dished toggle and latchs onto the frame part you are taking about. Thanks

Thor · 03-09-2016, 01:32 PM

Yep, sheepherder, that is the piece and Tom does NOT have one. Thanks for the picture. Any chance there is a front view of the part to go with the side view? Thank you

Olle · 03-09-2016, 03:02 PM

Ted asked me about making one, and I believe it can be done. It's just one of those projects where you have to make multiple fixtures and setups, so making just one would be extremely time consuming. So is this a part that breaks often?

If there is this there a demand for this part, I can sure look into it. Some pictures of the back would be a good start.

sheepherder · 03-09-2016, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Thor

Any chance there is a front view of the part to go with the side view?

The print shows three views of the lock plus the mainspring and a couple other parts I can't identify, should be in your mailbox.

Micro machining. Good luck!

Thor · 03-09-2016, 04:29 PM

Got it, thanks I believe lower left hand corner is the rivet detail to couple the multiple layers of steel that make up the main spring. Bottom center might be the small spring that operates the toggle lock. Lower right is the pin that goes through the toggle hole and the latch to retain the toggle lock/latch. I think the upper right is the frame piece that the toggle latch locks onto.

Olle · 03-09-2016, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder

Micro machining. Good luck!

Yeah, that's the part that scares me. Not only do I have to make the part, I also need to make a few "negatives" to use for holding it securely in the mill.

Luger parts are... well, I guess the best way to describe them would be "very 3-dimensional", so I would still like to see some pictures to make sure I'm reading the drawings correctly.

Thor · 03-10-2016, 11:53 AM

Olle, I fully understand, will have some soon to show.

Thor · 03-14-2016, 12:51 PM

Here are pictures of a good one next to the broken toggle latch/lock

DonVoigt · 03-14-2016, 05:24 PM

Looks like a good candidate for micro welding on a piece to replace the missing arm.

Olle · 03-15-2016, 11:37 PM

Ted,

Can't guarantee anything and don't have a clue how long it will take, but I'll see what I can do.

03-08-2016, 01:58 PM	#1
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Toggle Lock (PICTURES ADDED) Working on A Eagle Eagle Luger and during detail stripping, I found the interior leg of the toggle lock is broken and missing. I have another clients toggle lock to look at for general comparisons. I have contaced Tom Heller, Hugh Clark, GT, and many parts sites looking for one. I have entertained the idea of having one made or buying a replacement or having the broken one repaired. Any ideas, drawings, etc. Thanks. This Luger is restored and all I miss is the toggle lock __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email [email protected] ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." Last edited by Thor; 03-14-2016 at 12:45 PM.

03-08-2016, 03:36 PM	#2
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,183 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	I believe the blueprint for the M1900 toggle lock is on page 1745 of TBLAP DVD. The toggle is on pg 1744. __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

03-09-2016, 01:29 PM	#5
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	No Tom, the strawed part that resides inside the dished toggle and latchs onto the frame part you are taking about. Thanks __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email [email protected] ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

03-09-2016, 01:32 PM	#6
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Yep, sheepherder, that is the piece and Tom does NOT have one. Thanks for the picture. Any chance there is a front view of the part to go with the side view? Thank you __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email [email protected] ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

03-09-2016, 03:02 PM	#7
Olle User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,149 Thanks: 159 Thanked 663 Times in 318 Posts	Ted asked me about making one, and I believe it can be done. It's just one of those projects where you have to make multiple fixtures and setups, so making just one would be extremely time consuming. So is this a part that breaks often? If there is this there a demand for this part, I can sure look into it. Some pictures of the back would be a good start. __________________ Deer Hollow Enterprises, LLC Gun repair and restoration

03-08-2016, 04:10 PM	#3
Tomathvl User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Milan, IN Posts: 363 Thanks: 3 Thanked 48 Times in 19 Posts	Thor are you talking about the toggle hold down that has a dovetail and that fits in the frame? If so I have one. Tom

03-09-2016, 04:29 PM	#9
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Got it, thanks I believe lower left hand corner is the rivet detail to couple the multiple layers of steel that make up the main spring. Bottom center might be the small spring that operates the toggle lock. Lower right is the pin that goes through the toggle hole and the latch to retain the toggle lock/latch. I think the upper right is the frame piece that the toggle latch locks onto. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email [email protected] ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

03-10-2016, 11:53 AM	#11
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Olle, I fully understand, will have some soon to show. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email [email protected] ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

03-14-2016, 12:51 PM	#12
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Here are pictures of a good one next to the broken toggle latch/lock __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email [email protected] ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

03-14-2016, 05:24 PM	#13
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,442 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Looks like a good candidate for micro welding on a piece to replace the missing arm. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

03-15-2016, 11:37 PM	#14
Olle User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,149 Thanks: 159 Thanked 663 Times in 318 Posts	Ted, Can't guarantee anything and don't have a clue how long it will take, but I'll see what I can do. __________________ Deer Hollow Enterprises, LLC Gun repair and restoration