My "new" old 1916 Artillery holster by Hermann Floehr, Cologne

DonVoigt · 04-27-2016, 09:59 PM

This ebay buy it now arrived today. I'm pleased to say better than expected.

The seller described it as "no markings", except the scratches on the back of a previous owner. I can't decide what "they" were trying to inscribe, a name- then #13 frame? - then
#2824 Ret., puzzling.

I was hoping for a date, and sure enough, in a little bit unusual place is the marking for Hermann Floehr, 1916, Coeln.

This identical mark is to be found in the green edition of Goertz and Sturgess on page 1351(volume III). For the red edition you can probably find the same picture in the chapter on "Military Holsters/Stocks".

Also received with an original cleaning rod, but not marked. No tool left in the pouch.

Holster stitching and leather in super condition save the closure strap which is pretty fragile and worn.

lugerholsterrepair · 04-27-2016, 11:20 PM

Don, Nice! Strap that beauty onto a stock and all that GI graffitti will disappear!

DonVoigt · 04-28-2016, 12:04 AM

Thanks Jerry.

I put it on the last "loose" stock I had; now I'm even stocks/holsters.

Still need two sets of straps, I keep hoping I'll get lucky and find an original set; but I'll probably be to you for them.

Still have my Navy stock that "needs" a holster though.

George Anderson · 04-28-2016, 10:36 AM

Floer is one of the lesser known saddlers of the Imperial era. I believe they were involved in the leather garment business before the war. Below are photos of a 1915 dated LP08 holster made by Floehr. I know of only two others like it, one in the US and another in France.

LU1900 · 05-02-2016, 10:47 PM

Nice one , I own one stamped like this and a more stamp on the back
Somebody seen other like that ?
Have a look :

sheepherder · 05-03-2016, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by George Anderson

Floer is one of the lesser known saddlers of the Imperial era... Below are photos of a 1915 dated LP08 holster made by Floehr...

Is that pigskin???

George Anderson · 05-03-2016, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder

Is that pigskin???

No it's pebble-grained calf.

DonVoigt · 05-03-2016, 09:35 AM

Very nice holsters George and Patrice; they each survived in amazing condition!

Thanks for the pictures.

Eugen · 05-03-2016, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by George Anderson

No it's pebble-grained calf.

Interesting. It sure looks like goat skin to me. USN leather flight jackets are traditionally done in goat skin and that leather looks very similar, but lighter in color. I love that pebble textured leather. George you have a beautiful and unique holster there! Thanks for sharing a photo of it.

laoshi75 · 05-03-2016, 12:59 PM

George, if I am not mistaken you also have a matching H.FLOHR pebble-grained calf (and not pigskin..) double mag pouch ?

sheepherder · 05-03-2016, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by laoshi75

...you also have a matching H.FLOHR pebble-grained calf (and not pigskin..)

Well, it looks like a football so I asked...

Maybe footballs are really leather with pebble impressions???

Some {not all) USAF 'leather' flight jackets are horsehide...

(I wonder if the Russians made their holsters out of rathide???)

George Anderson · 05-03-2016, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laoshi75

George, if I am not mistaken you also have a matching H.FLOHR pebble-grained calf (and not pigskin..) double mag pouch ?

I have a couple of them as I recall.

LU1900 · 05-04-2016, 09:55 PM

Got army and navy pouch both pebble grained , no maker mark seen ..

04-28-2016, 12:04 AM	#3
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Thanks Jerry. I put it on the last "loose" stock I had; now I'm even stocks/holsters. Still need two sets of straps, I keep hoping I'll get lucky and find an original set; but I'll probably be to you for them. Still have my Navy stock that "needs" a holster though. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

04-28-2016, 10:36 AM	#4
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,529 Times in 787 Posts	Floer is one of the lesser known saddlers of the Imperial era. I believe they were involved in the leather garment business before the war. Below are photos of a 1915 dated LP08 holster made by Floehr. I know of only two others like it, one in the US and another in France. Attached Thumbnails

05-02-2016, 10:47 PM	#5
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 908 Thanks: 42 Thanked 469 Times in 197 Posts	Nice one , I own one stamped like this and a more stamp on the back Somebody seen other like that ? Have a look : Attached Thumbnails __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/

05-03-2016, 09:35 AM	#8
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Very nice holsters George and Patrice; they each survived in amazing condition! Thanks for the pictures. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

04-27-2016, 09:59 PM	#1
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	My "new" old 1916 Artillery holster by Hermann Floehr, Cologne This ebay buy it now arrived today. I'm pleased to say better than expected. The seller described it as "no markings", except the scratches on the back of a previous owner. I can't decide what "they" were trying to inscribe, a name- then #13 frame? - then #2824 Ret., puzzling. I was hoping for a date, and sure enough, in a little bit unusual place is the marking for Hermann Floehr, 1916, Coeln. This identical mark is to be found in the green edition of Goertz and Sturgess on page 1351(volume III). For the red edition you can probably find the same picture in the chapter on "Military Holsters/Stocks". Also received with an original cleaning rod, but not marked. No tool left in the pouch. Holster stitching and leather in super condition save the closure strap which is pretty fragile and worn. Attached Thumbnails __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

04-27-2016, 11:20 PM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Don, Nice! Strap that beauty onto a stock and all that GI graffitti will disappear! __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

05-03-2016, 12:59 PM	#10
laoshi75 User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Thailand/France Posts: 490 Thanks: 288 Thanked 96 Times in 41 Posts	George, if I am not mistaken you also have a matching H.FLOHR pebble-grained calf (and not pigskin..) double mag pouch ?

05-04-2016, 09:55 PM	#13
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 908 Thanks: 42 Thanked 469 Times in 197 Posts	Got army and navy pouch both pebble grained , no maker mark seen .. __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/