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JBBOOKS · 03-01-2017, 01:49 PM

Hey guys I took the advice many of you offered and bought a shooter grade Luger as my first gun. The Luger is a mismatched pistol with the upper matching. The frame, side plate, and grips match the frame number. The internal parts match the upper. The frame is stamped on the left side with 7 4 W and the right with a B. The grips have to be removed to see this. Can any tell me who made the frame and who made the upper? The acceptance stamps on the right side are marked 655. The magazine is marked 122 37 on the side. I think the holster is made for a HI Power because of the markings WaA101 nka43.
I paid $750 for the gun and holster. How did I do? Any information you can give me on this pistol would be appreciated.

JBBOOKS · 03-01-2017, 02:01 PM

Here are a few more pictures. One more question. The barrel is marked 41 and the toggle is marked 42. What do the numbers mean? Is it just mismatched? Thanks in advance

Eugen · 03-01-2017, 02:06 PM

Congrats on your first Luger. I am sure you will have fun with it at the range. Keep us posted as to your range experience. Hey, how about some photos of the holster.

JBBOOKS · 03-01-2017, 02:56 PM

Here are a few pictures of the holster. It is in poor to fair condition. I may post it for sale.

Mac Cat · 03-01-2017, 04:11 PM

WaA101 - Waffenamt Inspectors Number (Auwaerter & Bubeck) and three others, but none of them were "nka"

nka is associated with J.j. Schlayer AG, Lederfabrik. Reutlingen (Wurttenberg).
(German Ordinance codes: p. 211 Luger Holsters & Accessories of the 20th Century)

The style, however, is certainly not for a Luger.
Hi-Power is as good a guess as I can come up with.

rhuff · 03-01-2017, 04:36 PM

Congrats on your "first" Luger.....there may well be more!!! If this Luger functions well for you at the range, then I think that you did fine price wise. It should never be worth less then that amount going forward.

Break it down for a through cleaning, inspection and lube. A new Mec-Gar mag is also something that I would consider for this shooter. They are the best aftermarket mags available for a P08.

Stick with std. velocity FMJ RN ammo and you should be fine. There are many brands available, so hopefully you will find what you new Luger likes best....Enjoy!!

JBBOOKS · 03-01-2017, 05:19 PM

Mac Cat,
Thank you for the information. Like you I think it is a HI Power P-35 holster.

JBBOOKS · 03-01-2017, 05:21 PM

rhuff,
Thanks for the advice. I have 3 Mec-Gar mags on the way. I plan on using 115 gr full metal jacket. Thanks again.

DonVoigt · 03-01-2017, 06:32 PM

Good job, both in the pistol and price for what should be a great shooter.

I'd keep the holster, it ain't worth much!

mrerick · 03-01-2017, 07:30 PM

If it shoots and cycles properly, you did just fine.

The "41" is the year the upper was made. The "42" is a concealment code for Mauser. It's a Mauser made upper from early in the year before the concealment code changed to "byf".

The frame looks DWM or early Mauser (1935-1937) to me. Is the side plate marked "92" inside toward the bottom, or does it have a number like "93" in the flat area? Of course, "49" on the outside flat area.

The serial on the front of the frame is out of focus, but looks like it may have been ground and renumbered. The side plate could confirm the original number, and manufacturer if it's matched to the frame.

You'll learn a lot by reading our FAQ document.

BTW, you have the best shooting magazine already. The milled Haenel Schmeisser magazines are very high quality.

Marc

JBBOOKS · 03-01-2017, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Good job, both in the pistol and price for what should be a great shooter.

I'd keep the holster, it ain't worth much!

Your right about the holster, it looks like it's been through a war

JBBOOKS · 03-01-2017, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrerick

If it shoots and cycles properly, you did just fine.

The "41" is the year the upper was made. The "42" is a concealment code for Mauser. It's a Mauser made upper from early in the year before the concealment code changed to "byf".

The frame looks DWM or early Mauser (1935-1937) to me. Is the side plate marked "92" inside toward the bottom, or does it have a number like "93" in the flat area? Of course, "49" on the outside flat area.

The serial on the front of the frame is out of focus, but looks like it may have been ground and renumbered. The side plate could confirm the original number, and manufacturer if it's matched to the frame.

You'll learn a lot by reading our FAQ document.

BTW, you have the best shooting magazine already. The milled Haenel Schmeisser magazines are very high quality.

Marc

Thanks for all the help. I will check out the FAQ. The side plate is marked with what appears to be "92". Thanks again for the information regarding the magazine.

03-01-2017, 01:49 PM	#1
JBBOOKS User Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Central PA Posts: 35 Thanks: 68 Thanked 14 Times in 6 Posts	Got One Hey guys I took the advice many of you offered and bought a shooter grade Luger as my first gun. The Luger is a mismatched pistol with the upper matching. The frame, side plate, and grips match the frame number. The internal parts match the upper. The frame is stamped on the left side with 7 4 W and the right with a B. The grips have to be removed to see this. Can any tell me who made the frame and who made the upper? The acceptance stamps on the right side are marked 655. The magazine is marked 122 37 on the side. I think the holster is made for a HI Power because of the markings WaA101 nka43. I paid $750 for the gun and holster. How did I do? Any information you can give me on this pistol would be appreciated. Attached Thumbnails

03-01-2017, 02:01 PM	#2
JBBOOKS User Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Central PA Posts: 35 Thanks: 68 Thanked 14 Times in 6 Posts	More pictures Here are a few more pictures. One more question. The barrel is marked 41 and the toggle is marked 42. What do the numbers mean? Is it just mismatched? Thanks in advance Attached Thumbnails

03-01-2017, 02:06 PM	#3
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 790 Thanks: 394 Thanked 631 Times in 334 Posts	Congrats on your first Luger. I am sure you will have fun with it at the range. Keep us posted as to your range experience. Hey, how about some photos of the holster. __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

03-01-2017, 02:56 PM	#4
JBBOOKS User Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Central PA Posts: 35 Thanks: 68 Thanked 14 Times in 6 Posts	Holster Here are a few pictures of the holster. It is in poor to fair condition. I may post it for sale. Attached Thumbnails

03-01-2017, 06:32 PM	#9
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,442 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Good job, both in the pistol and price for what should be a great shooter. I'd keep the holster, it ain't worth much! __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

03-01-2017, 04:11 PM	#5
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 733 Thanks: 2,100 Thanked 610 Times in 329 Posts	WaA101 - Waffenamt Inspectors Number (Auwaerter & Bubeck) and three others, but none of them were "nka" nka is associated with J.j. Schlayer AG, Lederfabrik. Reutlingen (Wurttenberg). (German Ordinance codes: p. 211 Luger Holsters & Accessories of the 20th Century) The style, however, is certainly not for a Luger. Hi-Power is as good a guess as I can come up with.

03-01-2017, 04:36 PM	#6
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,291 Thanks: 2,709 Thanked 972 Times in 717 Posts	Congrats on your "first" Luger.....there may well be more!!! If this Luger functions well for you at the range, then I think that you did fine price wise. It should never be worth less then that amount going forward. Break it down for a through cleaning, inspection and lube. A new Mec-Gar mag is also something that I would consider for this shooter. They are the best aftermarket mags available for a P08. Stick with std. velocity FMJ RN ammo and you should be fine. There are many brands available, so hopefully you will find what you new Luger likes best....Enjoy!!

03-01-2017, 05:19 PM	#7
JBBOOKS User Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Central PA Posts: 35 Thanks: 68 Thanked 14 Times in 6 Posts	Mac Cat, Thank you for the information. Like you I think it is a HI Power P-35 holster.

03-01-2017, 05:21 PM	#8
JBBOOKS User Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Central PA Posts: 35 Thanks: 68 Thanked 14 Times in 6 Posts	rhuff, Thanks for the advice. I have 3 Mec-Gar mags on the way. I plan on using 115 gr full metal jacket. Thanks again.

03-01-2017, 07:30 PM	#10
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	If it shoots and cycles properly, you did just fine. The "41" is the year the upper was made. The "42" is a concealment code for Mauser. It's a Mauser made upper from early in the year before the concealment code changed to "byf". The frame looks DWM or early Mauser (1935-1937) to me. Is the side plate marked "92" inside toward the bottom, or does it have a number like "93" in the flat area? Of course, "49" on the outside flat area. The serial on the front of the frame is out of focus, but looks like it may have been ground and renumbered. The side plate could confirm the original number, and manufacturer if it's matched to the frame. You'll learn a lot by reading our FAQ document. BTW, you have the best shooting magazine already. The milled Haenel Schmeisser magazines are very high quality. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.