To shoot, or not to shoot my WW2 Luger - Page 3

cirelaw · 10-12-2017, 11:30 PM

Marc, Brilliant history lesson!!

cirelaw · 10-12-2017, 11:59 PM

Next I would have purchased a Simson except the boss cut me off a 21~ I wonder if leather goods are included?

kurusu · 10-13-2017, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Puretexan

So the uniqueness is not because they are built better, but just less made?

Basically yes.

All Lugers were well made. What brings the prices way up besides the obvious original condition is the scarcity of the variety or contract.

sheepherder · 10-13-2017, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jshark

Darn it! "Simson" it's the iPhone autocorrect, I swear.

Apple actually loaded the TV show into their smartphone O/S browser memory??? That is so Apple!!!

mrerick · 10-13-2017, 11:11 AM

The Simson made Lugers are quite rare because of the small number made with probably under 10% surviving. Since the last one was made well before WW-II, any in service would have been used during the entire conflict making loss in service a higher probability than, say, a "42" date Mauser Luger or a later war P.38 pistol.

As I mentioned earlier, the number known to collectors (thank's to Ed's work) is just a few hundred.

DWM and Erfurt Lugers surviving WW-II were also subject to such losses, but were made in much greater numbers.

While also very well made, they also display a unique characteristic. Almost every part that can be marked has been military accepted with a die stamp, right down to the grip screws.

So - if you're trying to keep an all matching Simson Luger that way, loss of almost any part is very difficult to replace. There are not many spares in circulation.

Marc

Sieger · 10-14-2017, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw

Although I've collected 21 over 2 decades, against advice from others, I test fired my 1914 DWM Artillery and was amazed by the power and kick!

Hi,

Your recoil spring must be weak then.

I would advise against further firing until you have checked this out!

Sieger

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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	The Simson made Lugers are quite rare because of the small number made with probably under 10% surviving. Since the last one was made well before WW-II, any in service would have been used during the entire conflict making loss in service a higher probability than, say, a "42" date Mauser Luger or a later war P.38 pistol. As I mentioned earlier, the number known to collectors (thank's to Ed's work) is just a few hundred. DWM and Erfurt Lugers surviving WW-II were also subject to such losses, but were made in much greater numbers. While also very well made, they also display a unique characteristic. Almost every part that can be marked has been military accepted with a die stamp, right down to the grip screws. So - if you're trying to keep an all matching Simson Luger that way, loss of almost any part is very difficult to replace. There are not many spares in circulation. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

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cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Marc, Brilliant history lesson!!

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cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Next I would have purchased a Simson except the boss cut me off a 21~ I wonder if leather goods are included?