P08 Magazine Identification

Mike Kay · 10-17-2017, 11:13 AM

I've been looking for spare magazines to use on my 1916 DWM P08.
I came across this one in an old military surplus store.

Is someone able to please identify this magazine.

Many thanks,
Mike

Mike Kay · 10-17-2017, 11:14 AM

Some more pics.

Thanks,
Mike

mrerick · 10-17-2017, 11:24 AM

It's an East German post war police magazine. "2" would have been the second magazine of the set that accompanied a pistol when issued.

2/1001 is the concealment code of Ernst Thalmann in Suhl Germany. There were two Thalmann sites in Suhl. 1/1001 and 2/1001 were the concealment codes.

These are very high quality and usable magazines and make excellent magazines for shooter Lugers. The machined and welded body is the best of all the magazines produced for the Luger.

This was previously the Haenel/Schmeisser operation, taken over by the state after WW-II.

Marc

Mike Kay · 10-17-2017, 11:39 AM

Marc thanks very much for the information, much appreciated.
I'll go ahead and purchase it.

I also picked up 2 mint condition Swiss magazines in nickel, I think they're made by Rudolf Pfanninger.

I've no idea when these were made?

Best,
Mike

Edward Tinker · 10-17-2017, 03:30 PM

1960's or 70's I think - all my books are in Washington and I am in Pennsylvania. I have had a brown base one in my shooter artillery for about 14 years, excellent magazines.

What you need is a wood based magazine to go looking correct for your pre-1926 period.

Ed

Mike Kay · 10-17-2017, 04:20 PM

Hi Ed thanks for the input on the Swiss magazines.
I do have the original 1916 matching numbered magazine for my Luger, but do not shoot with it. I've been looking for decent quality spare magazines to shoot with.

It seems like I'm getting there with the 3 magazines that I've managed to track down here in SA this past week.

Thanks & best,
Mike

G.T. · 10-17-2017, 04:27 PM

Hi Mike, Hey, I have some nice WW1 walnut bottomed mags that I'd trade you for the Swiss mags?... let me know, [email protected]

best to you, til...lat'r...GT

Ben M. · 10-17-2017, 08:57 PM

i thought in 1940s by vendor for swiss

Mike Kay · 10-18-2017, 04:48 AM

"Hi Mike, Hey, I have some nice WW1 walnut bottomed mags that I'd trade you for the Swiss mags?... let me know, [email protected]
best to you, til...lat'r...GT"

HI GT I'm going to give these magazines a try at the shooting range in the next couple of days and decide. If I do keep them, I'm sure I'll be able to source a couple more of these here. Will let you know.

Best,
Mike

alanint · 10-18-2017, 01:06 PM

Has anybody done a Magazine marks chart that you could quickly consult?

John Sabato · 10-18-2017, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by alanint

Has anybody done a Magazine marks chart that you could quickly consult?

Great question Doug. I don't think this has been done... It would be nice of one of the guys who specialize in collecting magazines would start such a thread...

Lugerdoc · 10-19-2017, 11:27 AM

Probably the best and most complete reference for all markings found on lugers and it's magazines is Costanzo's "World of Lugers -- Proof marks" published in 1977. I have an spare copy available @$250 + $20 S&H in USA. There are several other books that specialize in military and police unit markings, but none as complete or as easy to use for factory or National markings. Probably the best source for postwar and Soviet block markings is Buxton's "The P38 Pistols --- Volume 3" which shows the markings on P38s, but same were used on many DDR, Russian, CZ, etc reworked PO8s.

10-17-2017, 11:13 AM	#1
Mike Kay User Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: South Africa Posts: 24 Thanks: 38 Thanked 48 Times in 14 Posts	P08 Magazine Identification I've been looking for spare magazines to use on my 1916 DWM P08. I came across this one in an old military surplus store. Is someone able to please identify this magazine. Many thanks, Mike Attached Thumbnails

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Mike Kay User Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: South Africa Posts: 24 Thanks: 38 Thanked 48 Times in 14 Posts	Some more pics. Thanks, Mike Attached Thumbnails

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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	It's an East German post war police magazine. "2" would have been the second magazine of the set that accompanied a pistol when issued. 2/1001 is the concealment code of Ernst Thalmann in Suhl Germany. There were two Thalmann sites in Suhl. 1/1001 and 2/1001 were the concealment codes. These are very high quality and usable magazines and make excellent magazines for shooter Lugers. The machined and welded body is the best of all the magazines produced for the Luger. This was previously the Haenel/Schmeisser operation, taken over by the state after WW-II. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

10-17-2017, 11:39 AM	#4
Mike Kay User Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: South Africa Posts: 24 Thanks: 38 Thanked 48 Times in 14 Posts	Marc thanks very much for the information, much appreciated. I'll go ahead and purchase it. I also picked up 2 mint condition Swiss magazines in nickel, I think they're made by Rudolf Pfanninger. I've no idea when these were made? Best, Mike Attached Thumbnails

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	1960's or 70's I think - all my books are in Washington and I am in Pennsylvania. I have had a brown base one in my shooter artillery for about 14 years, excellent magazines. What you need is a wood based magazine to go looking correct for your pre-1926 period. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-17-2017, 04:20 PM	#6
Mike Kay User Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: South Africa Posts: 24 Thanks: 38 Thanked 48 Times in 14 Posts	Hi Ed thanks for the input on the Swiss magazines. I do have the original 1916 matching numbered magazine for my Luger, but do not shoot with it. I've been looking for decent quality spare magazines to shoot with. It seems like I'm getting there with the 3 magazines that I've managed to track down here in SA this past week. Thanks & best, Mike

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G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,507 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,653 Times in 1,004 Posts	WW1 mags! Hi Mike, Hey, I have some nice WW1 walnut bottomed mags that I'd trade you for the Swiss mags?... let me know, [email protected] best to you, til...lat'r...GT

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Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 488 Thanks: 90 Thanked 123 Times in 83 Posts	i thought in 1940s by vendor for swiss

10-18-2017, 04:48 AM	#9
Mike Kay User Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: South Africa Posts: 24 Thanks: 38 Thanked 48 Times in 14 Posts	"Hi Mike, Hey, I have some nice WW1 walnut bottomed mags that I'd trade you for the Swiss mags?... let me know, [email protected] best to you, til...lat'r...GT" HI GT I'm going to give these magazines a try at the shooting range in the next couple of days and decide. If I do keep them, I'm sure I'll be able to source a couple more of these here. Will let you know. Best, Mike

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alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Has anybody done a Magazine marks chart that you could quickly consult?

10-19-2017, 11:27 AM	#12
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Probably the best and most complete reference for all markings found on lugers and it's magazines is Costanzo's "World of Lugers -- Proof marks" published in 1977. I have an spare copy available @$250 + $20 S&H in USA. There are several other books that specialize in military and police unit markings, but none as complete or as easy to use for factory or National markings. Probably the best source for postwar and Soviet block markings is Buxton's "The P38 Pistols --- Volume 3" which shows the markings on P38s, but same were used on many DDR, Russian, CZ, etc reworked PO8s. __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 [email protected]