Any collectors from Canada here? - Page 2

John Sabato · 11-23-2004, 12:45 PM

Looks like a great shooter Erich... Best of Luck... Even if you just get it across the canadian border legally, you could get your money back without taking it into the republik of calfornia...

Jerry.B · 11-24-2004, 12:17 AM

Just for info - what makes a firearm in Canada Restricted or Prohibited?

DougT · 11-24-2004, 12:38 AM

That's Kalifornia JS--get it right! LOL
DougT

kidvett · 11-24-2004, 12:42 AM

Jerry B,

MY pleasure to tell you a bit about Canadian Firearms Laws...........

Weapon Classification:

Prohibited: Any handgun with a barrel lenght of 105mm & less + all 25 & 32 Cal Handguns.......( some exceptions like Walther's GSP Target pistol ) But an old S&W 32 Long with a 6 in bbl is Prohibited.......( This classification was put forward to eliminate ``small hideout`` guns from the market........ )

Restricted: Handguns with a barrel lenght of 106mm & more.......( for clarification, a military P08 is Prohibited due to it's 4 inch ( 102mm ) barrel........

Assault Rifles, Converted ( SA only ) military weapons & genuine Auto weapons ( like your Class III ) are.........of course Prohibited........

Permit Classification:

An individual can have various permit Class to possess weapons from different categories. It is all based on the ``Grandfathered`` system, aka: you must had this kind of weapon registered to you at the reference date which still allows you to buy more of the same class. Prohibited Class Handguns reference date is Feb 15th 1995, Autos in Jan 1st 1978.......get it...

So if a new guy wants to buy a P08, he cannot !! Unless he gets the barrel changed for a longer one...

So what history to come will show is a dissapearance of those ``Prohibited Weapons`` from the population as they can only be transfered by means of ``last will`` to direct descendents ( kids ) or be transfered to individuals having the appropriate weapons class....( the ``young bunch`` of those are early 30s at this time ).......

I hope this little info gives you the picture........

MARK

I'm one of those having the Prohibited Class permits.........

Erich · 11-24-2004, 03:18 PM

kidvett's definitely got the story right. Since I'm living in Montreal right now I had originally planned on getting a canada PAL license and buying the luger through the system until I found out is was prohibited. Lucky for me I can export it to the US. Your right, eventually these will dry up, get cut up, or be demilled. As a matter of fact, the luger I am buying was for sale $400 Can or $450 Can demilled! The fact that demilling is listed as an option is depressing! What I dont get is why its so difficult to export; if Canada doesnt want these lugers why dont they let us buy them all from them? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

lconnolly · 11-30-2004, 09:12 PM

I've not been on the forum for a while, but i do own a 'grandfathered' prohibited P-08 owner in Canada (the grandfathering process took a year and was aided by the fact that I knew the lawyer who wrote the regulation).

I'll also take the opportunity to thank the forum community for being as informative and helpful as they are.

11-23-2004, 12:45 PM	#21
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Looks like a great shooter Erich... Best of Luck... Even if you just get it across the canadian border legally, you could get your money back without taking it into the republik of calfornia... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-24-2004, 12:17 AM	#22
Jerry.B User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just for info - what makes a firearm in Canada Restricted or Prohibited? __________________ JerryB, Arizona, USA

11-24-2004, 12:38 AM	#23
DougT User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 171 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	That's Kalifornia JS--get it right! LOL DougT

11-24-2004, 12:42 AM	#24
kidvett User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 584 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Jerry B, MY pleasure to tell you a bit about Canadian Firearms Laws........... Weapon Classification: Prohibited: Any handgun with a barrel lenght of 105mm & less + all 25 & 32 Cal Handguns.......( some exceptions like Walther's GSP Target pistol ) But an old S&W 32 Long with a 6 in bbl is Prohibited.......( This classification was put forward to eliminate ``small hideout`` guns from the market........ ) Restricted: Handguns with a barrel lenght of 106mm & more.......( for clarification, a military P08 is Prohibited due to it's 4 inch ( 102mm ) barrel........ Assault Rifles, Converted ( SA only ) military weapons & genuine Auto weapons ( like your Class III ) are.........of course Prohibited........ Permit Classification: An individual can have various permit Class to possess weapons from different categories. It is all based on the ``Grandfathered`` system, aka: you must had this kind of weapon registered to you at the reference date which still allows you to buy more of the same class. Prohibited Class Handguns reference date is Feb 15th 1995, Autos in Jan 1st 1978.......get it... So if a new guy wants to buy a P08, he cannot !! Unless he gets the barrel changed for a longer one... So what history to come will show is a dissapearance of those ``Prohibited Weapons`` from the population as they can only be transfered by means of ``last will`` to direct descendents ( kids ) or be transfered to individuals having the appropriate weapons class....( the ``young bunch`` of those are early 30s at this time )....... I hope this little info gives you the picture........ MARK I'm one of those having the Prohibited Class permits.........

11-24-2004, 03:18 PM	#25
Erich New User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	kidvett's definitely got the story right. Since I'm living in Montreal right now I had originally planned on getting a canada PAL license and buying the luger through the system until I found out is was prohibited. Lucky for me I can export it to the US. Your right, eventually these will dry up, get cut up, or be demilled. As a matter of fact, the luger I am buying was for sale $400 Can or $450 Can demilled! The fact that demilling is listed as an option is depressing! What I dont get is why its so difficult to export; if Canada doesnt want these lugers why dont they let us buy them all from them? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

11-30-2004, 09:12 PM	#26
lconnolly User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've not been on the forum for a while, but i do own a 'grandfathered' prohibited P-08 owner in Canada (the grandfathering process took a year and was aided by the fact that I knew the lawyer who wrote the regulation). I'll also take the opportunity to thank the forum community for being as informative and helpful as they are.