Dumb Newbie ?

Savage11 · 10-01-2018, 07:27 PM

Hello gentleman,
Im having a difficult time determining the price range of shooter grade lugers. What are baseline prices for shooter grade artillery lugers and naval lugers. I haven't made up my mind on which one to purchase as they are magnificent guns with unique characteristics . I do however need to set aside funds for a future purchase. All help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time and patience.

DavidJayUden · 10-01-2018, 09:02 PM

Those 2 models are somewhat problematic as there is such a wide price range and are of increased value. A very WAG would be minimum of $1500 on an Artillery, and $2000 on a Navy, and at those prices the guns won't be much to look at.
If you can provide more details, or send a link, we will try to help you.
dju

Savage11 · 10-01-2018, 09:42 PM

Thank you very much sir, that answers the why I have had a difficult time with finding a baseline price. Looks as if I have some saving to do. The shooter grades are not cheap, but nothing worthwhile is. Thanks again.

DonVoigt · 10-01-2018, 10:46 PM

It depends on if you want an "original" pistol, with mostly matching parts; or an assembly of mismatched original parts; or original low % finish or refinish; or a "clone" with modern parts; or...

Just too many variables to give a base price.

I have seen either sell for $1000 or $2000; depends on where and when and how big a rush you are in to have one!

DavidJayUden · 10-01-2018, 11:34 PM

You will find a 4" military or 3.75" commercial Luger closer to the $800 mark if you look around, but don't buy the cheapest one you find. Save a bit longer and buy one that doesn't hurt to look at.
dju

Sergio Natali · 10-02-2018, 04:09 AM

Vintage gun values are often based on rarity condition and the desire for those that want to buy them when they are up for sale, talking about "shooters" I would think prices are based mainly on condition.

DonVoigt · 10-02-2018, 10:20 AM

Savage11,
If you do buy a shooter, but it from someone who "guarantees" it will shoot, and will stand behind that guarantee.

Many "shooters" have problems that prevent them from being reliable shooters.

Perhaps the best place to buy one is on these forums, from someone who has shot the pistol and knows it will shoot. You will have to be patient till something shows up, but will probably save some $$ also.

You can always try a WTB ad here, just be specific as to what you want-see my first post.

Savage11 · 10-02-2018, 12:56 PM

These posts are a perfect example of why I love this place. Knowledgeable well thought out posts. Id write more but gotta get back to work. Will reply this afternoon.

Savage11 · 10-02-2018, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt

It depends on if you want an "original" pistol, with mostly matching parts; or an assembly of mismatched original parts; or original low % finish or refinish; or a "clone" with modern parts; or...

Just too many variables to give a base price.

I have seen either sell for $1000 or $2000; depends on where and when and how big a rush you are in to have one!

I'm thinking a mismatch of original parts on an artillery Luger would satisfy my wants. The bluing quality doesn't bother me too much as long as it shoots. I most definitely would only buy from here, I just don't trust online vendors with no guarantee. I was taken care of here, actually above and beyond my expectations. It's difficult to turn your back on stellar service! Lots of information to digest and think about, but that makes the wait worth it in the end. Plus, I'm in no rush.

Savage11 · 10-02-2018, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

You will find a 4" military or 3.75" commercial Luger closer to the $800 mark if you look around, but don't buy the cheapest one you find. Save a bit longer and buy one that doesn't hurt to look at.
dju

LOL, I don't want any ugly girls in my safe!

4 Scale · 10-02-2018, 09:27 PM

If you have not done so already, consider purchasing high quality books like the Sill books or Gortz & Sturgess. They will make you a much better buyer of any Luger type including shooters.

If I was looking for a shooter artillery Luger I'd jump on this:https://www.legacy-collectibles.com/...ry-091218.html Legacy is a reputable seller.

Savage11 · 10-03-2018, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 4 Scale

If you have not done so already, consider purchasing high quality books like the Sill books or Gortz & Sturgess. They will make you a much better buyer of any Luger type including shooters.

If I was looking for a shooter artillery Luger I'd jump on this:https://www.legacy-collectibles.com/...ry-091218.html Legacy is a reputable seller.

Ive seen that one as well, its a beauty!

ithacaartist · 10-03-2018, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 4 Scale

If you have not done so already, consider purchasing high quality books like the Sill books or Gortz & Sturgess. They will make you a much better buyer of any Luger type including shooters.

https://www.simpsonltd.com/products/k1172

Savage11 · 10-03-2018, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ithacaartist

https://www.simpsonltd.com/products/k1172

Plus, it comes with DVDs an added bonus. Thank you kindly sir.

Sergio Natali · 10-06-2018, 08:46 AM

... and this time I forgot to add what I usually say to anybody buying a vintage gun to use at the range as a shooter: always stay away from heavy loads!

Savage11 · 10-06-2018, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by luger.parabellum

... and this time I forgot to add what I usually say to anybody buying a vintage gun to use at the range as a shooter: always stay away from heavy loads!

I use 115gr for my byf shooter and only load five rounds at a time. Of course I learned that from the members here. My shooter was built by a gentleman here who is very talented and knows his craft extremely well! I waited many years for the opportunity to own a WW2 Luger. I'm so fortunate to have found this site. The talent and knowledge on this forum is next to none! I also understand that studying the Luger is a life long commitment. The Luger is a mechanical work of art a functional mechanical masterpiece. I must warn other newbies, they are addicting!!

10-01-2018, 07:27 PM	#1
Savage11 User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Ohio Posts: 54 Thanks: 26 Thanked 27 Times in 13 Posts	Dumb Newbie ? Hello gentleman, Im having a difficult time determining the price range of shooter grade lugers. What are baseline prices for shooter grade artillery lugers and naval lugers. I haven't made up my mind on which one to purchase as they are magnificent guns with unique characteristics . I do however need to set aside funds for a future purchase. All help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time and patience.

10-01-2018, 10:46 PM	#4
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,442 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	It depends on if you want an "original" pistol, with mostly matching parts; or an assembly of mismatched original parts; or original low % finish or refinish; or a "clone" with modern parts; or... Just too many variables to give a base price. I have seen either sell for $1000 or $2000; depends on where and when and how big a rush you are in to have one! __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

10-02-2018, 04:09 AM	#6
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Vintage gun values are often based on rarity condition and the desire for those that want to buy them when they are up for sale, talking about "shooters" I would think prices are based mainly on condition. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

10-02-2018, 10:20 AM	#7
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,442 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Savage11, If you do buy a shooter, but it from someone who "guarantees" it will shoot, and will stand behind that guarantee. Many "shooters" have problems that prevent them from being reliable shooters. Perhaps the best place to buy one is on these forums, from someone who has shot the pistol and knows it will shoot. You will have to be patient till something shows up, but will probably save some $$ also. You can always try a WTB ad here, just be specific as to what you want-see my first post. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

10-02-2018, 09:27 PM	#11
4 Scale User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 544 Thanks: 194 Thanked 489 Times in 251 Posts	If you have not done so already, consider purchasing high quality books like the Sill books or Gortz & Sturgess. They will make you a much better buyer of any Luger type including shooters. If I was looking for a shooter artillery Luger I'd jump on this:https://www.legacy-collectibles.com/...ry-091218.html Legacy is a reputable seller. Last edited by 4 Scale; 10-02-2018 at 11:50 PM.

10-01-2018, 09:02 PM	#2
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Those 2 models are somewhat problematic as there is such a wide price range and are of increased value. A very WAG would be minimum of $1500 on an Artillery, and $2000 on a Navy, and at those prices the guns won't be much to look at. If you can provide more details, or send a link, we will try to help you. dju

10-01-2018, 09:42 PM	#3
Savage11 User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Ohio Posts: 54 Thanks: 26 Thanked 27 Times in 13 Posts	Thank you very much sir, that answers the why I have had a difficult time with finding a baseline price. Looks as if I have some saving to do. The shooter grades are not cheap, but nothing worthwhile is. Thanks again.

10-01-2018, 11:34 PM	#5
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	You will find a 4" military or 3.75" commercial Luger closer to the $800 mark if you look around, but don't buy the cheapest one you find. Save a bit longer and buy one that doesn't hurt to look at. dju

10-02-2018, 12:56 PM	#8
Savage11 User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Ohio Posts: 54 Thanks: 26 Thanked 27 Times in 13 Posts	These posts are a perfect example of why I love this place. Knowledgeable well thought out posts. Id write more but gotta get back to work. Will reply this afternoon.

10-06-2018, 08:46 AM	#15
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	... and this time I forgot to add what I usually say to anybody buying a vintage gun to use at the range as a shooter: always stay away from heavy loads! __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.