Commercial or contract holster?

MFC · 02-25-2020, 02:10 AM

I picked this holster up at the SOS in Louisville this weekend. It is for a 4" barreled Luger. No makers marks are stamps anywhere. Included are a loading tool, pin punch and cleaning rod. It also came with a Portuguese marked magazine.
Would it be correct for a Portuguese Royal Navy or RP Navy, or some other contract?
Thanks in advance for any help.

George Anderson · 02-25-2020, 10:08 AM

Very nice early private purchase German holster.

MFC · 02-25-2020, 07:06 PM

OK, got it. Thank you George.
So the correct magazine should be an early blank bottom commercial sold with an 08 Commercial.

If anyone has a picture of the correct holster for a Portuguese Navy, I'd appreciate a look.

Thanks again.

briskspirit · 09-16-2020, 11:26 PM

If you don't mind to ask how much you spent? Sorry for asking but I am looking for similar holster and don't know what to expect..

lugerholsterrepair · 09-17-2020, 11:46 AM

Igor, Yup! That's the holster you're looking for.

MFC · 09-18-2020, 01:15 AM

Hello Igor,
I paid $400 for everything. I don't think the seller knew the total value.
I am planning on bringing it to the next Tulsa show... hopefully in November.

Dwight Gruber · 09-18-2020, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MFC

..If anyone has a picture of the correct holster for a Portuguese Navy, I'd appreciate a look...

I'm afraid that I never took pictures but the Portuguese Navy is a flap-type holster for a 4-inch barrel, both ends of a shoulder strap are sewn to the back.

--Dwight

Ron Wood · 09-18-2020, 02:26 AM

I forgot I had photos until I was just reminded by Dwight's post above. Note that the Royal Portuguese Navy Luger is a 4 inch barrel but the holster, which is indeed Portuguese Navy, is for a 4 3/4 inch barrel indicating that probably some M2 Lugers were also employed by the Navy.
Ron

Doubs · 09-18-2020, 02:42 AM

I've owned two different Portuguese holsters but they were made for the army. Except for the straps on the back, one was identical to Ron's Navy except it had loops for a belt. The one with the tools now belongs to my son. The other I still have.

kurusu · 09-18-2020, 07:10 AM

About the Portuguese Navy holster.

In All period photos I could find they were wearing M2 type holsters. But the truth is all those photos were of "landing parties". So I suspect they were are armed with M2 pistols. One has to remember the original Navy contract was for only about 500 pistols(and it got divided almost in half because of the Republican revolution of 1910.

About half of them have the Crown over Anchor and the remainer have R. P. over Anchor). Cannot find a photo of a ship officer carrying a pistol.

IE.

However, There is this photo(These items belong to an ex forum member) of a Navy Pistol complete with holster, that apparently was owned by an Admiral.

Edit. Looking closer at the first pictures. I'm not so sure those are M2 holsters.

MFC · 09-19-2020, 01:35 AM

Thanks for showing the Navies with straps.
Kurusu, I believe you are correct about the holsters in the photos... they do look shorter than M2 holsters.
I'm sure they're as rare has hens teeth.

02-25-2020, 02:10 AM	#1
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Commercial or contract holster? I picked this holster up at the SOS in Louisville this weekend. It is for a 4" barreled Luger. No makers marks are stamps anywhere. Included are a loading tool, pin punch and cleaning rod. It also came with a Portuguese marked magazine. Would it be correct for a Portuguese Royal Navy or RP Navy, or some other contract? Thanks in advance for any help. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Mike C.

02-25-2020, 07:06 PM	#3
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	OK, got it. Thank you George. So the correct magazine should be an early blank bottom commercial sold with an 08 Commercial. If anyone has a picture of the correct holster for a Portuguese Navy, I'd appreciate a look. Thanks again. __________________ Mike C.

09-17-2020, 11:46 AM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Igor, Yup! That's the holster you're looking for. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

09-18-2020, 01:15 AM	#6
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Hello Igor, I paid $400 for everything. I don't think the seller knew the total value. I am planning on bringing it to the next Tulsa show... hopefully in November. __________________ Mike C.

09-18-2020, 02:26 AM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	I forgot I had photos until I was just reminded by Dwight's post above. Note that the Royal Portuguese Navy Luger is a 4 inch barrel but the holster, which is indeed Portuguese Navy, is for a 4 3/4 inch barrel indicating that probably some M2 Lugers were also employed by the Navy. Ron Attached Thumbnails Attached Images __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

02-25-2020, 10:08 AM	#2
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,529 Times in 787 Posts	Very nice early private purchase German holster.

09-16-2020, 11:26 PM	#4
briskspirit User Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 58 Thanks: 80 Thanked 28 Times in 12 Posts	If you don't mind to ask how much you spent? Sorry for asking but I am looking for similar holster and don't know what to expect..

09-18-2020, 02:42 AM	#9
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,698 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,687 Times in 554 Posts	I've owned two different Portuguese holsters but they were made for the army. Except for the straps on the back, one was identical to Ron's Navy except it had loops for a belt. The one with the tools now belongs to my son. The other I still have.

09-18-2020, 07:10 AM	#10
kurusu User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,225 Thanks: 2,679 Thanked 930 Times in 509 Posts	About the Portuguese Navy holster. In All period photos I could find they were wearing M2 type holsters. But the truth is all those photos were of "landing parties". So I suspect they were are armed with M2 pistols. One has to remember the original Navy contract was for only about 500 pistols(and it got divided almost in half because of the Republican revolution of 1910. About half of them have the Crown over Anchor and the remainer have R. P. over Anchor). Cannot find a photo of a ship officer carrying a pistol. IE. However, There is this photo(These items belong to an ex forum member) of a Navy Pistol complete with holster, that apparently was owned by an Admiral. Edit. Looking closer at the first pictures. I'm not so sure those are M2 holsters. Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

09-19-2020, 01:35 AM	#11
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Thanks for showing the Navies with straps. Kurusu, I believe you are correct about the holsters in the photos... they do look shorter than M2 holsters. I'm sure they're as rare has hens teeth. __________________ Mike C. Last edited by MFC; 09-19-2020 at 02:24 AM.