Question: Simson Lugers, correct type of magazine

Fla.Mallard · 09-24-2020, 06:14 PM

What is the correct type of magazine for a Simson Luger in the 8xxx range?

I know little (actually nothing) about Simson Lugers and am considering purchasing one. It has an aluminum base on the magazine but is not matching to the pistol.

Thanks in advance for any information.

mrerick · 09-24-2020, 08:00 PM

Considering the rarity of anything genuine from Simson, if it has the period correct magazine with a genuine E/6 inspection mark, I'd probably buy the pistol.

Remember that only 12,000 or so Simson Lugers were made, and perhaps 24,000 magazines would have been produced for those pistols - total.

IIRC, It normally would have a folded tin body, and E/6 marked aluminum base.

Legacy recently sold this one: https://www.legacy-collectibles.com/...032819-03.html

Edward Tinker · 09-24-2020, 10:48 PM

It can depend on a few factors.

However, almost always they were likely issued with two magazines - army have one number, the second has a +

The other for police would have a 1 or 2

Now, generally I believe that one from the factory will have two eagle 6 on the base (top and bottom) and one on the spine.

They started making them and issuing with aluminum bases. At some point, around the 6,000 mark, a hundred or so, perhaps more, likely less) were issued with wood bases.

You will find eagle 46 on the base (one), none on the spine - these likely were replacement magazines and I believe for police.
You will find eagle 6 (one) on the base and nothing on the spine, again these were likely replacement magazines.

GerColctor · 10-07-2020, 05:33 PM

Fla Mallard
If you are going to own a Simson, it should have a correct Simson marked mag. They are relatively expensive, but add a lot of value to the pistol. Is the Luger you are considering a police model (sear safety) or army?

Fla.Mallard · 10-07-2020, 06:05 PM

It appears to be a military model. No sear safety.

I am unable to upload the photo from the website (Simpson Ltd.).

Edward Tinker · 10-07-2020, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fla.Mallard

It appears to be a military model. No sear safety.

I am unable to upload the photo from the website (Simpson Ltd.).

so, just tell us the stock number and we can look it up at Simpson's - although I have all their serial numbers in my listing unless fairly new.

Simpson LTD printed and have copies of my book...

Fla.Mallard · 10-07-2020, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

so, just tell us the stock number and we can look it up at Simpson's - although I have all their serial numbers in my listing unless fairly new.

Simpson LTD printed and have copies of my book...

SKU:C39374
Caliber:9mm
Thank you.

Edward Tinker · 10-08-2020, 12:57 AM

My gut is that anything that is 99% blue and strawing that looks so fresh has a good chance of being a restore. It doesn't say that on the website, and Simpson is usually pretty good at stating that. On the other hand, if I had a 99% gun, I'd ask more than what they are asking.

Its a very pretty gun and if redone, it was done very well. That said, I bought a simson in PA that was awfully nice and used to own a mauser that was 98-99% - so its possible.

Fla.Mallard · 10-08-2020, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

My gut is that anything that is 99% blue and strawing that looks so fresh has a good chance of being a restore. It doesn't say that on the website, and Simpson is usually pretty good at stating that. On the other hand, if I had a 99% gun, I'd ask more than what they are asking.

Its a very pretty gun and if redone, it was done very well. That said, I bought a simson in PA that was awfully nice and used to own a mauser that was 98-99% - so its possible.

I just got this back from Simpson:

"Simpson LTD <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Yes, it has been refinished."

Thank you very much for cluing me in on this.

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Fla.Mallard User Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 99 Thanks: 244 Thanked 95 Times in 37 Posts	Question: Simson Lugers, correct type of magazine What is the correct type of magazine for a Simson Luger in the 8xxx range? I know little (actually nothing) about Simson Lugers and am considering purchasing one. It has an aluminum base on the magazine but is not matching to the pistol. Thanks in advance for any information.

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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Considering the rarity of anything genuine from Simson, if it has the period correct magazine with a genuine E/6 inspection mark, I'd probably buy the pistol. Remember that only 12,000 or so Simson Lugers were made, and perhaps 24,000 magazines would have been produced for those pistols - total. IIRC, It normally would have a folded tin body, and E/6 marked aluminum base. Legacy recently sold this one: https://www.legacy-collectibles.com/...032819-03.html __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	It can depend on a few factors. However, almost always they were likely issued with two magazines - army have one number, the second has a + The other for police would have a 1 or 2 Now, generally I believe that one from the factory will have two eagle 6 on the base (top and bottom) and one on the spine. They started making them and issuing with aluminum bases. At some point, around the 6,000 mark, a hundred or so, perhaps more, likely less) were issued with wood bases. You will find eagle 46 on the base (one), none on the spine - these likely were replacement magazines and I believe for police. You will find eagle 6 (one) on the base and nothing on the spine, again these were likely replacement magazines. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-07-2020, 05:33 PM	#4
GerColctor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: CT & FL Posts: 312 Thanks: 2 Thanked 45 Times in 29 Posts	Fla Mallard If you are going to own a Simson, it should have a correct Simson marked mag. They are relatively expensive, but add a lot of value to the pistol. Is the Luger you are considering a police model (sear safety) or army? __________________ It is better to have lived a day as a tiger, then a thousand years as a lamb.

10-07-2020, 06:05 PM	#5
Fla.Mallard User Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 99 Thanks: 244 Thanked 95 Times in 37 Posts	It appears to be a military model. No sear safety. I am unable to upload the photo from the website (Simpson Ltd.).

10-08-2020, 12:57 AM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	My gut is that anything that is 99% blue and strawing that looks so fresh has a good chance of being a restore. It doesn't say that on the website, and Simpson is usually pretty good at stating that. On the other hand, if I had a 99% gun, I'd ask more than what they are asking. Its a very pretty gun and if redone, it was done very well. That said, I bought a simson in PA that was awfully nice and used to own a mauser that was 98-99% - so its possible.