1920 / 1916 Luger

stefanosg · 01-02-2024, 03:33 PM

I am looking at a very good condition, all matching Luger. It looks like a Police Rework. I am not familiar with the sear safety that would denote this as such. In this picture, is that the item behind the trigger? There is also a notched bit further down the gun. They are asking $2500.

Doubs · 01-02-2024, 05:03 PM

The piece behind the trigger is a magazine safety that was designed to prevent firing the pistol if the magazine was removed. The vast majority of Police Lugers had them removed or the piece that blocked the trigger clipped off. Very few are found with the pieces still installed and extremely few with the disconnect still functional.

Many are found with the sear safety - the flat spring riveted to the sear bar hood -but the magazine safety/disconnect apparently didn't function well enough or was found to be unnecessary and most were removed.

Karl · 01-02-2024, 05:04 PM

Steven,

The things you circled are parts of the magazine safety. The sear safety is spring/bar resting above the sear in the photo (you have to push it up to get the side plate on). Post more photos if you can, and someone with more knowledge can provide an opinion on value.

Karl

Ron Wood · 01-02-2024, 05:09 PM

That is what is left of a magazine safety. Like most of the safeties that haven't been removed completly, it has been deactivated by cutting off the little tab that blocks the trigger from being pulled when the magazine has been removed. This safety was intended to keep the trigger being pulled and the gun from being fired when the magazine was removed but there was still a live round in the chamber. It wasn't a well received modification, so most of them were completly removed or, as in the case of your gun, deactivated. It is kind of scarce and an intact original is quite rare.
Ron

stefanosg · 01-02-2024, 05:23 PM

I forgot to mention that when I said all matching, that included the magazine as well.

aldo35 · 01-03-2024, 02:49 PM

While the pistol looks to be very nice and matching I think $2500 high.

stefanosg · 01-05-2024, 10:16 AM

I went ahead and got it. I did get them to come down on the price. I'm guessing that while the magazine s/n matches, I'm guessing it's an armorer's reissue, or just a later mag the previous owner found with a matching s/n.

01-02-2024, 03:33 PM	#1
stefanosg User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: East Central Florida Posts: 367 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 2 Posts	1920 / 1916 Luger I am looking at a very good condition, all matching Luger. It looks like a Police Rework. I am not familiar with the sear safety that would denote this as such. In this picture, is that the item behind the trigger? There is also a notched bit further down the gun. They are asking $2500. __________________ "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

01-02-2024, 05:09 PM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	That is what is left of a magazine safety. Like most of the safeties that haven't been removed completly, it has been deactivated by cutting off the little tab that blocks the trigger from being pulled when the magazine has been removed. This safety was intended to keep the trigger being pulled and the gun from being fired when the magazine was removed but there was still a live round in the chamber. It wasn't a well received modification, so most of them were completly removed or, as in the case of your gun, deactivated. It is kind of scarce and an intact original is quite rare. Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

01-02-2024, 05:23 PM	#5
stefanosg User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: East Central Florida Posts: 367 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 2 Posts	I forgot to mention that when I said all matching, that included the magazine as well. __________________ "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

01-03-2024, 02:49 PM	#6
aldo35 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Northern GA Posts: 343 Thanks: 2,223 Thanked 146 Times in 76 Posts	1920/1926 Luger While the pistol looks to be very nice and matching I think $2500 high.

01-05-2024, 10:16 AM	#7
stefanosg User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: East Central Florida Posts: 367 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 2 Posts	I went ahead and got it. I did get them to come down on the price. I'm guessing that while the magazine s/n matches, I'm guessing it's an armorer's reissue, or just a later mag the previous owner found with a matching s/n. __________________ "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

01-02-2024, 05:03 PM	#2
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,698 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,687 Times in 554 Posts	The piece behind the trigger is a magazine safety that was designed to prevent firing the pistol if the magazine was removed. The vast majority of Police Lugers had them removed or the piece that blocked the trigger clipped off. Very few are found with the pieces still installed and extremely few with the disconnect still functional. Many are found with the sear safety - the flat spring riveted to the sear bar hood -but the magazine safety/disconnect apparently didn't function well enough or was found to be unnecessary and most were removed.

01-02-2024, 05:04 PM	#3
Karl Lifer - Twice Over Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Savannah Posts: 522 Thanks: 0 Thanked 271 Times in 118 Posts	Steven, The things you circled are parts of the magazine safety. The sear safety is spring/bar resting above the sear in the photo (you have to push it up to get the side plate on). Post more photos if you can, and someone with more knowledge can provide an opinion on value. Karl