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09-06-2004, 10:50 PM | #1 |
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DWM Luger
My brother-in-law has a Luger that he is interested in selling, but he doen't know what it's worth. The info I have collected by examination is as follows:
Luger Identification Form 1. "DWM" toggle inscription 2. #28 proof mark (Parabellum web site), GERMANY, and DMANY inscriptions on side of chamber. 3. Squared and knurled toggle knob type 4. no grip safety present 5. stock lug is present 6. 7.65 mm caliber 7. walnut, checkered grip type w/o border 8. thumb safety safe in rear position with "Gesichert" inscribed at an angle 9. s/n "115" "O" series on barrel and in front of trigger 10. 3-3/4" from forward end of extractor to muzzle 11. #4 proof mark (#28 rotated 90 degrees CCW) on left edge of extractor (Parabellum web site) 12. basic front and rear sights 13. magazine bottom plug made of wood w/o markings 1. DWM commercial Luger, 1924-1930? 2. bluing still at 90%+ 3. straw colored finish on trigger and disassembly latch at 20% 4. bore in good condition 5. grips in good condition 6. all matching serial numbers on parts (115 "O series" or 15) 7. no s/n on magazine 8. no accessories Please establish model and year along with value, and notify me if further information is required. Thanks. |
09-08-2004, 04:41 PM | #2 |
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nasded1,
I don't have the value information your looking for but am interested to learn if this gun has any markings on the front grip strap (frame between the wooden grips) and/or a sear safety or evidence that one was installed.
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09-08-2004, 08:48 PM | #3 |
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There aren't any markings on the front grip strap. The only safety that I see is the standard thumb safety with the inscription "Gesichert", which I believe means "secure" or "safe" in German. What is a sear safety? nasded1 |
09-08-2004, 08:49 PM | #4 |
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Can you identify this pistol model and/or year?
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09-08-2004, 10:35 PM | #5 |
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nasded1,
I am far from an expert but this seems to be a DWM commercial model P08, produced about 1926. It does not sound like it was converted to police use since it is still .30 cal and doesn't have a grip strap mark or sear safety. The GERMANY mark indicates it was potentially for export. You can see a sear safety on this link: http://forums.lugerforum.com/cgi-bin...c;f=3;t=000184 The sear safety is that strip of metal bradded onto the left side of the receiver above the sear bar and regular safety bar. I won't even hazard a guess as to value. I'm sure there are others who will chime in. If you can post some digital pictures of the gun, it will certainly help them. Don
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09-09-2004, 01:07 AM | #6 |
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Thanks. I don't have a web site to provide a link for pictures, but I could e-mail some to you if you wish. Perhaps you could then provide a link to the images? I'm new to this. [email protected] |
09-09-2004, 09:14 AM | #7 |
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I'm headed out of town for several days but, if you look at the top topic under Site Help and Feedback, you'll find a tutorial for uploading photos to this forum. It's not that hard...even I eventually figured it out...and you don't need a website.
Good luck, Don
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09-09-2004, 11:22 AM | #8 |
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If you have a problem posting the photos after uploading them to the Lugerforum server, then let me know here and we will help you out. Welcome to the Luger forum.
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Let's see how these turn out:
<a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/dsc00033.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/dsc00033.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/dsc00031.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/dsc00031.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload//dsc00001.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload//dsc00001.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/dsc00025_copy2.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/dsc00025_copy2.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/dsc00029.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/dsc00029.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> |
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Paul, they turned out fine. I did try messing with them, so they'd show up on the page, and it wasn't working. I think that was because John D was changing thingermabobs on the network.
I deleted the other posting, as these pictures were good. To make them "appear" smaller, you put thumb instead of img BUT, if you want to go back in an edit the posting, the thumb one would get all messed up. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Ed
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Does anyone out there have a good idea of the year and value of this DWM Luger?
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Ed,Ed,Ed... Thingermabobs!? Pretty technical talk for someone who makes their living messing with computer whatzits, dohickies, and such. Does your boss read this forum?
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Hi Paul, The value is around $500-$700+, depending on what the market will bear. 1920 Commercials don't sell all that well. Just too many of them. Looks like a nice one, however. Also .30 Luger ammo is kind of spendy.
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Yes Ron, but you knew what I meant!
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