They are out there

Roadkill · 12-10-2003, 10:35 PM

http://gmartin-auctions.com/forgett/...509&Pictures=4

http://gmartin-auctions.com/forgett/...510&Pictures=5

http://gmartin-auctions.com/forgett/...511&Pictures=4

http://gmartin-auctions.com/forgett/...512&Pictures=4

http://gmartin-auctions.com/forgett/...513&Pictures=5

http://gmartin-auctions.com/forgett/...514&Pictures=4

rk

John Sabato · 12-11-2003, 08:41 AM

Either they have the serial numbers and the photos confused or these are NOT Krieghoff Lugers but parts lugers with Krieghoff toggles that have been poorly refinished!

I can't see a single matching number on any of them... the frames don't match the numbers on the receiver where they show those pictures...

Could be this auction house is being taken advantage of by the seller...

John D. · 12-11-2003, 09:18 AM

Hey RK and John..!!!

RK - I need a copy of your "bookmarks" for your browser - HOW DO YOU FIND THESE??!!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

Also - John, I did a quick scan last night before heading off -line (it was sort'a late

). A couple of things - I noticed that several of the photos were indeed incorrectly placed (like one of the "S" series in the "36", one "36" in the 1936, etc..). Also - some of their estimates are off, if I believe the descriptions - like the 1937 is over and the 1940 would be a steal - but is "partially restored??) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Finally - one of the takedowns and triggers I noticed may incorrect, but I can't really remember which one, or if it's the photo? I'll try to go through them later today and post back, but I have a full schedule, so it may be later...!!!

Good eye John!!!! - you're ready to specialize in HK's I think!!!!!

drbuster · 12-11-2003, 10:12 AM

John D., check your private messages please.

John D. · 12-11-2003, 10:23 AM

Right back at-cha

John Sabato · 12-11-2003, 11:12 AM

We'll after a closer review I see that one listed (Sn 9986) does match both on both frame and receiver... but unless they move some photos around... the rest aren't so hot. I look forward to your evaluation John D.

Pete Ebbink · 12-11-2003, 12:58 PM

Guys,

I think these gun offerings were from the April or June auction offering by G-M Auctions...

Most probably have new homes...especially that 1940 HK...# 11191(hint, hint...) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

stevezz1 · 12-11-2003, 06:48 PM

Hi All,

For an auction house i would say the images are a bit poor, surley they could invest in a better camera, or a competant photographer........

Lets see some good pics of that 1940 HK # 11191
then Pete....

Regards,

Steve.

Pete Ebbink · 12-11-2003, 09:58 PM

Hello Steve in England !

The 1940 HK luger (# 11191) now belongs to LF member, Doc Fisher. There is a nice informative discussion thread in the HK Luger section, dated 9/30/03 which was started by Doc Fisher.

Also, Doc had me post his 1940 HK photos in our Member's Gallery, the photo album is now on the 2nd. page of the Gallery...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

12-10-2003, 10:35 PM	#1
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	They are out there http://gmartin-auctions.com/forgett/...509&Pictures=4 http://gmartin-auctions.com/forgett/...510&Pictures=5 http://gmartin-auctions.com/forgett/...511&Pictures=4 http://gmartin-auctions.com/forgett/...512&Pictures=4 http://gmartin-auctions.com/forgett/...513&Pictures=5 http://gmartin-auctions.com/forgett/...514&Pictures=4 rk

12-11-2003, 08:41 AM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Either they have the serial numbers and the photos confused or these are NOT Krieghoff Lugers but parts lugers with Krieghoff toggles that have been poorly refinished! I can't see a single matching number on any of them... the frames don't match the numbers on the receiver where they show those pictures... Could be this auction house is being taken advantage of by the seller... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

12-11-2003, 11:12 AM	#6
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	We'll after a closer review I see that one listed (Sn 9986) does match both on both frame and receiver... but unless they move some photos around... the rest aren't so hot. I look forward to your evaluation John D. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

12-11-2003, 06:48 PM	#8
stevezz1 User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: England / South East Posts: 38 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi All, For an auction house i would say the images are a bit poor, surley they could invest in a better camera, or a competant photographer........ Lets see some good pics of that 1940 HK # 11191 then Pete.... Regards, Steve. __________________ As she abused the sausage pattie and said 'why don't you treat me mean'.

12-11-2003, 09:18 AM	#3
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Hey RK and John..!!! RK - I need a copy of your "bookmarks" for your browser - HOW DO YOU FIND THESE??!!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> Also - John, I did a quick scan last night before heading off -line (it was sort'a late ). A couple of things - I noticed that several of the photos were indeed incorrectly placed (like one of the "S" series in the "36", one "36" in the 1936, etc..). Also - some of their estimates are off, if I believe the descriptions - like the 1937 is over and the 1940 would be a steal - but is "partially restored??) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Finally - one of the takedowns and triggers I noticed may incorrect, but I can't really remember which one, or if it's the photo? I'll try to go through them later today and post back, but I have a full schedule, so it may be later...!!! Good eye John!!!! - you're ready to specialize in HK's I think!!!!!

12-11-2003, 10:12 AM	#4
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	John D., check your private messages please.

12-11-2003, 10:23 AM	#5
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Right back at-cha

12-11-2003, 12:58 PM	#7
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Guys, I think these gun offerings were from the April or June auction offering by G-M Auctions... Most probably have new homes...especially that 1940 HK...# 11191(hint, hint...) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

12-11-2003, 09:58 PM	#9
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Steve in England ! The 1940 HK luger (# 11191) now belongs to LF member, Doc Fisher. There is a nice informative discussion thread in the HK Luger section, dated 9/30/03 which was started by Doc Fisher. Also, Doc had me post his 1940 HK photos in our Member's Gallery, the photo album is now on the 2nd. page of the Gallery... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />