How do You identify Mag Mfr.

Paul L · 04-04-2005, 02:34 AM

Evening All or Morning All,

just depends on where your at

The question, How does one tell the difference between the DWM and Erfurt Mags

since my 1st luger purchase which is posted 25 posts or so below, have spent many enjoyable hours here and thank everyone for the knowledge i have gained

the only markings on the mag are on the wood floorplate, i see a number 2 on one flat, a Crown over the letter B on the other flat, and the number in the middle which is a mismatch, #7039, and my luger is #9679 on my 1914 DWM

, Please Help ...........

My apologies if i posted in the wrong forum but i thought i would post in this one as my pistol is posted below this ...............

TIA, Regards, Paul

policeluger · 04-04-2005, 02:40 AM

The wood bottom of an Erfurt mag will have a an additional crown inspector proof mark that DWM do not, also the mag button on an Erfurt has a finer checkered pattern than a DWM..... the #2 could indicate police use and the C/B on the other sounds Erfurt....hope this helps

Paul L · 04-04-2005, 02:54 AM

Howard,

thanx for your quick reply............guess this means that i have to find a correct ...at least DWM ....... mag for the Luger

Regards, Paul

Dwight Gruber · 04-04-2005, 04:16 AM

Paul,

My understanding of these magazines is similar to Howards, but slightly different in detail.

Early Erfurt magazines have two inspector stamps on the wood base, one on each flat; late magazines only have one. DWM magazines, following their practice on the rest of their gun's parts, do not have inspector stamps. Imperial armorer's replacement magazines and mag bases are inspector stamped.

The mag buttons on DWM pistols have a definite diamond appearance to their checkering; Erfurt checkering is definitely flat-topped.

I agree with Howard that your magazine appears to be a Police magazine, converted from an Erfurt original (or possibly an armorer's replacement). Actually I went back to your original post (thats a heckofa nice Luger you've got there), the magazine you show sure looks like it has an Erfurt-style mag button.

--Dwight

Paul L · 04-04-2005, 11:48 AM

Thanks Dwight,

For further clarification i burnt some photos of mag in question

Let me know, please.........

Paul L · 04-04-2005, 11:49 AM

Another photo

Paul L · 04-04-2005, 11:55 AM

Another photo

Paul L · 04-04-2005, 11:56 AM

Another photo,

Pete Ebbink · 04-04-2005, 12:06 PM

Typical flat checking on the follower button...typical Erfurt...

Paul L · 04-04-2005, 01:19 PM

Thanks Pete,

i had tried to find your dissertation on Mags from a post along time ago but the search didn't find it.....if you could point me in the right direction .......

Now the question is, How hard is it to find a correct era DWM magazine ????

Since the norm is a mismatched mag with (most) lugers.....does any trading go on to get the correct mag (or close) with the pistol in question ????

Or should i keep this one and just shop for another ???????

TIA, Regards, Paul

04-04-2005, 02:34 AM	#1
Paul L User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Monroe County, SE Mich. Posts: 76 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	How do You identify Mag Mfr. Evening All or Morning All, just depends on where your at The question, How does one tell the difference between the DWM and Erfurt Mags since my 1st luger purchase which is posted 25 posts or so below, have spent many enjoyable hours here and thank everyone for the knowledge i have gained the only markings on the mag are on the wood floorplate, i see a number 2 on one flat, a Crown over the letter B on the other flat, and the number in the middle which is a mismatch, #7039, and my luger is #9679 on my 1914 DWM , Please Help ........... My apologies if i posted in the wrong forum but i thought i would post in this one as my pistol is posted below this ............... TIA, Regards, Paul

04-04-2005, 11:48 AM	#5
Paul L User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Monroe County, SE Mich. Posts: 76 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Pics of Mag Thanks Dwight, For further clarification i burnt some photos of mag in question Let me know, please......... Attached Thumbnails

04-04-2005, 11:49 AM	#6
Paul L User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Monroe County, SE Mich. Posts: 76 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Another photo Attached Thumbnails

04-04-2005, 11:56 AM	#8
Paul L User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Monroe County, SE Mich. Posts: 76 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Another photo, Attached Thumbnails

04-04-2005, 02:40 AM	#2
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	The wood bottom of an Erfurt mag will have a an additional crown inspector proof mark that DWM do not, also the mag button on an Erfurt has a finer checkered pattern than a DWM..... the #2 could indicate police use and the C/B on the other sounds Erfurt....hope this helps

04-04-2005, 02:54 AM	#3
Paul L User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Monroe County, SE Mich. Posts: 76 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Howard, thanx for your quick reply............guess this means that i have to find a correct ...at least DWM ....... mag for the Luger Regards, Paul

04-04-2005, 04:16 AM	#4
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	Paul, My understanding of these magazines is similar to Howards, but slightly different in detail. Early Erfurt magazines have two inspector stamps on the wood base, one on each flat; late magazines only have one. DWM magazines, following their practice on the rest of their gun's parts, do not have inspector stamps. Imperial armorer's replacement magazines and mag bases are inspector stamped. The mag buttons on DWM pistols have a definite diamond appearance to their checkering; Erfurt checkering is definitely flat-topped. I agree with Howard that your magazine appears to be a Police magazine, converted from an Erfurt original (or possibly an armorer's replacement). Actually I went back to your original post (thats a heckofa nice Luger you've got there), the magazine you show sure looks like it has an Erfurt-style mag button. --Dwight

04-04-2005, 11:55 AM	#7
Paul L User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Monroe County, SE Mich. Posts: 76 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Another photo Attached Thumbnails

04-04-2005, 12:06 PM	#9
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Typical flat checking on the follower button...typical Erfurt...

04-04-2005, 01:19 PM	#10
Paul L User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Monroe County, SE Mich. Posts: 76 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks Pete, i had tried to find your dissertation on Mags from a post along time ago but the search didn't find it.....if you could point me in the right direction ....... Now the question is, How hard is it to find a correct era DWM magazine ???? Since the norm is a mismatched mag with (most) lugers.....does any trading go on to get the correct mag (or close) with the pistol in question ???? Or should i keep this one and just shop for another ??????? TIA, Regards, Paul