P code

hqbmw · 11-17-2005, 01:28 AM

I was fortunate to have an HK P-code #59 commercial offered to me yesterday. Needless to say, an opportunity such as this doesn't come up often, so it is the star (just like the one on the right side) of my collection.

After sharing it with Jerry Burney on Friday, I will try to post pictures to share it with all. It has 2 matching magazines and also a matching # complete slide in 9mm with a 4 inch barrel.

It is as mint as I have seen in any Luger, and is reported by the previous owner, and appears to my untrained eye, as all original. I am looking forward. to Jerry's opinions and observations.

Jack Hiles
Mesa AZ
480 219 6676

John D. · 11-17-2005, 10:34 AM

Hi Jack..!

CONGRATS!!! Can't wait to see the pictures and a short description..! Outstanding find...

And oh - welcome to the "HK addiction!" !!

John D.

lugerholsterrepair · 11-18-2005, 04:47 PM

John, I was able to see this outstanding weapon and hold it for several hours. I have never before seen a more mint pistol nevertheless a Krieghoff.
This one came with a 4" barrel canon and a 6" to match, all #59. The 4" is in 9MM with a fluted fireing pin,no serial. The 6"is .30 Luger and not fluted.
Just as Jack was packing up I noticed the 4" canon had been drilled and filled for a Police sear safety. Hard to say if one had ever been installed but the holes were there and filled.
The one Haenel Schmeisser mag had a Police Eagle on the bottom. It has two matching mags. The longer 6" canon assembly was not modified with holes for a sear safety.
This pistol would easily grade out at 100%. It has been fired but not more than a handfull of rounds. Both barrels are absolutely pristine. The muzzles are both in the white. The 4" has an S stamped on the front of the sight, the 6" has more height and no S or any other stamp.
It has beautiful unmarked deep brown bakalite grips. All 4 holes are threaded, no markings. Small border around edges.
It is a P marked pistol, the .30 has a star on the right reciever.The 4" has a Wa466 I think.
No chamber marking. Short sword and tiny Krieghoff Suhl print on both toggles.
Beautiful fit and finish, must be a rust blue. The straw is gorgeous.
Commercial N markings. This pistol would be the crown jewel in any collectors list of prizes....
We both had a question about the serial #59. Would this be a commercial # or would it have been pulled from the Military contract? How would it have been given this #?
I am hoping Jack can post some nice photo's of this....It is deffinately worth a looik for those who are interested in these pistols. Jerry Burney

John D. · 11-21-2005, 09:18 PM

Hi Jerry!

It almost sounds like a post-war? The "star" is absolutely correct "rejected Military", but the dual-cannons have me wondering of the timeframe it was brought out of the factory? Also - I'd really like to see the die stamps of the toggle(s)....

As for the final designation - when you ask if it was designated for commercial or pulled from the Military, it sounds like a commercial, rather than a re-seriialized Military variation (the "star" rejecction)....

I'd love to see photos to be able to get more specific!!

My thanks!!!

John D.

hqbmw · 11-22-2005, 01:22 AM

John,

I believe Jerry and I will get together after I return from Punxsutawney for Thanksgiving at the family farm. we will try to put together a photo essay to mimmick the essay you did for T. A. I am blessed to have Jerry and his wife close enough to help in the documentation of this beauty, (and to enjoy their company as well.)

A Happy and safe Thanksgiving to ALL the Forum and their families.

Jack Hiles
Mesa, AZ

11-17-2005, 01:28 AM	#1
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	P code I was fortunate to have an HK P-code #59 commercial offered to me yesterday. Needless to say, an opportunity such as this doesn't come up often, so it is the star (just like the one on the right side) of my collection. After sharing it with Jerry Burney on Friday, I will try to post pictures to share it with all. It has 2 matching magazines and also a matching # complete slide in 9mm with a 4 inch barrel. It is as mint as I have seen in any Luger, and is reported by the previous owner, and appears to my untrained eye, as all original. I am looking forward. to Jerry's opinions and observations. Jack Hiles Mesa AZ 480 219 6676

11-18-2005, 04:47 PM	#3
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	John, I was able to see this outstanding weapon and hold it for several hours. I have never before seen a more mint pistol nevertheless a Krieghoff. This one came with a 4" barrel canon and a 6" to match, all #59. The 4" is in 9MM with a fluted fireing pin,no serial. The 6"is .30 Luger and not fluted. Just as Jack was packing up I noticed the 4" canon had been drilled and filled for a Police sear safety. Hard to say if one had ever been installed but the holes were there and filled. The one Haenel Schmeisser mag had a Police Eagle on the bottom. It has two matching mags. The longer 6" canon assembly was not modified with holes for a sear safety. This pistol would easily grade out at 100%. It has been fired but not more than a handfull of rounds. Both barrels are absolutely pristine. The muzzles are both in the white. The 4" has an S stamped on the front of the sight, the 6" has more height and no S or any other stamp. It has beautiful unmarked deep brown bakalite grips. All 4 holes are threaded, no markings. Small border around edges. It is a P marked pistol, the .30 has a star on the right reciever.The 4" has a Wa466 I think. No chamber marking. Short sword and tiny Krieghoff Suhl print on both toggles. Beautiful fit and finish, must be a rust blue. The straw is gorgeous. Commercial N markings. This pistol would be the crown jewel in any collectors list of prizes.... We both had a question about the serial #59. Would this be a commercial # or would it have been pulled from the Military contract? How would it have been given this #? I am hoping Jack can post some nice photo's of this....It is deffinately worth a looik for those who are interested in these pistols. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

11-17-2005, 10:34 AM	#2
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Hi Jack..! CONGRATS!!! Can't wait to see the pictures and a short description..! Outstanding find... And oh - welcome to the "HK addiction!" !! John D.

11-21-2005, 09:18 PM	#4
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Hi Jerry! It almost sounds like a post-war? The "star" is absolutely correct "rejected Military", but the dual-cannons have me wondering of the timeframe it was brought out of the factory? Also - I'd really like to see the die stamps of the toggle(s).... As for the final designation - when you ask if it was designated for commercial or pulled from the Military, it sounds like a commercial, rather than a re-seriialized Military variation (the "star" rejecction).... I'd love to see photos to be able to get more specific!! My thanks!!! John D.

11-22-2005, 01:22 AM	#5
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	John, I believe Jerry and I will get together after I return from Punxsutawney for Thanksgiving at the family farm. we will try to put together a photo essay to mimmick the essay you did for T. A. I am blessed to have Jerry and his wife close enough to help in the documentation of this beauty, (and to enjoy their company as well.) A Happy and safe Thanksgiving to ALL the Forum and their families. Jack Hiles Mesa, AZ __________________ Jack Hiles Mesa AZ