HK # 9772

Pete Ebbink · 05-09-2005, 01:12 PM

Same gun before and after an auction :

http://www.rockislandauction.com/auc...hp?LotNum=2291

http://www.collectorfirearms.us/Handgun/HG-932.htm

One ad says it's refinsihed...the other ad says original...

Ron Smith · 05-09-2005, 01:30 PM

Absolutely amazing how they metamorphasize into original over-night. Must be magic! And how much they appreciate in value. 400% from one end of the country to another. I knew that the seller was a bit high on his prices and liberal with his discriptions, but......

Tomathvl · 05-09-2005, 01:35 PM

Hey,
Youse guys are too picky, He changed the grips to brown didn't he?
Tom

Tim · 05-09-2005, 01:47 PM

What amazes me is how Pete always seems to come up with these little pearls of wisdom. How do you find the time to check all the auction houses, gun broker, auction arms, all the dealer web sites and cross reference this information? Amazing!
Tim

Edward Tinker · 05-09-2005, 02:07 PM

he also can remember crap that I forget...

he has a looooong memory, so I try to stay on his good side

Ed

Pete Ebbink · 05-09-2005, 03:19 PM

Sorry guys...cannot take the credit for this one. Another member that was bidding on this piece at RIA alerted me...

Randall M. Bessler · 05-09-2005, 07:44 PM

There were several Lugers in the sale that were described with 'problems' that did not exist. The Krieghoff did have the wrong grips but I had a set of the right ones.
It is always a good idea to inspect any gun in person sold at auction. All auction companies (under terms and conditions of sale), only guarantee 3 things, make, model and serial. Everthing else is up for grabs.
Sometines you get good deals!
Best!
Randy Bessler

Edward Tinker · 05-09-2005, 07:49 PM

sounds good Randy, I wondered, as you have always treated me with honesty and professionalism, and so wondered at the 'discrepancies".

Thank you for coming to the forum and commenting!

Ed

Pete Ebbink · 06-01-2005, 01:27 PM

Wear along the left side in both the RIA photo and the photo on Randy's site. Does one see this type of wear from holster use ? Or just over aggressive cleaning/rubbing...?

Randall M. Bessler · 06-01-2005, 04:00 PM

Pete.
My photo was take with a different camera and probably different lighting. I have a problem with glare looking like high edge wear.
Gun should be seen in person, photos no matter how good are not the same.
Best!
Randy

Pete Ebbink · 06-05-2005, 09:42 PM

Hi Randy,

I totally agree. Same gun photo'd at different times and with different equipment sure can make the gun look totally different.

I try to see any luger in person, if possible, before I buy...

Glad to hear that not all the RIA lugers were "not legit".

Regards,

Pete...

05-09-2005, 01:12 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	HK # 9772 Same gun before and after an auction : http://www.rockislandauction.com/auc...hp?LotNum=2291 http://www.collectorfirearms.us/Handgun/HG-932.htm One ad says it's refinsihed...the other ad says original...

05-09-2005, 01:30 PM	#2
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Absolutely amazing how they metamorphasize into original over-night. Must be magic! And how much they appreciate in value. 400% from one end of the country to another. I knew that the seller was a bit high on his prices and liberal with his discriptions, but...... __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

05-09-2005, 01:47 PM	#4
Tim Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Great North Woods of Wisconsin Posts: 100 Thanks: 7 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	What amazes me is how Pete always seems to come up with these little pearls of wisdom. How do you find the time to check all the auction houses, gun broker, auction arms, all the dealer web sites and cross reference this information? Amazing! Tim __________________ The intent of the second amendment was not to allow the private ownership of firearms. If it had been it would have said something like "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"...

05-09-2005, 07:49 PM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	sounds good Randy, I wondered, as you have always treated me with honesty and professionalism, and so wondered at the 'discrepancies". Thank you for coming to the forum and commenting! Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

05-09-2005, 01:35 PM	#3
Tomathvl User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Milan, IN Posts: 363 Thanks: 3 Thanked 48 Times in 19 Posts	Hey, Youse guys are too picky, He changed the grips to brown didn't he? Tom

05-09-2005, 02:07 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	he also can remember crap that I forget... he has a looooong memory, so I try to stay on his good side Ed

05-09-2005, 03:19 PM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Sorry guys...cannot take the credit for this one. Another member that was bidding on this piece at RIA alerted me...

05-09-2005, 07:44 PM	#7
Randall M. Bessler User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Carson City, Nevada. U.S.A. Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	There were several Lugers in the sale that were described with 'problems' that did not exist. The Krieghoff did have the wrong grips but I had a set of the right ones. It is always a good idea to inspect any gun in person sold at auction. All auction companies (under terms and conditions of sale), only guarantee 3 things, make, model and serial. Everthing else is up for grabs. Sometines you get good deals! Best! Randy Bessler

06-01-2005, 01:27 PM	#9
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Wear along the left side in both the RIA photo and the photo on Randy's site. Does one see this type of wear from holster use ? Or just over aggressive cleaning/rubbing...?

06-01-2005, 04:00 PM	#10
Randall M. Bessler User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Carson City, Nevada. U.S.A. Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Pete. My photo was take with a different camera and probably different lighting. I have a problem with glare looking like high edge wear. Gun should be seen in person, photos no matter how good are not the same. Best! Randy

06-05-2005, 09:42 PM	#11
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Randy, I totally agree. Same gun photo'd at different times and with different equipment sure can make the gun look totally different. I try to see any luger in person, if possible, before I buy... Glad to hear that not all the RIA lugers were "not legit". Regards, Pete...