Newbie says hello and evaluation of a pistol

Alan62 · 11-16-2005, 05:27 PM

Hello folks
I recently started collecting vintage firearms and now have 4 vintage pieces.
1 is a 1943 S'G' M1 Carbine
2 is a 1921 Colt "Army Special" revolver
3 is a 1947 Colt "Government Model" 45 ACP
and 4 is a 1918 Colt "Black Army" 45 ACP

I have found a friend that has a Luger and I want to buy it.
All I know right now is that it is a 1915 with the fancy DWM on the top and it is in reasonably good condition.

The reason I am posting this is that I will be getting the pistol either later this afternoon or tomorrow to evaluate more closely.

I will take detailed pics and try to post them to get you Luger guys to help me evaluate a fair price for the pistol(if you will).

I am going to attempt to post a pic of my 45 just to test the waters.
I hope y'all don't mind.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...tacp011web.jpg

Thank you in advance for any help you can provide me.

Alan62 · 11-16-2005, 05:48 PM

Just another attempt at posting a pic
\image{http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...921Colt010.jpg}

Edward Tinker · 11-16-2005, 07:10 PM

Alan, use the forum upload feature, then after uploadign the picture, then copy it, and click on IMG and paste the url there.

Ensure you use ADD REPLY and not quick reply.

Welcome to the forum, we look forward to seeing your guns.

Ed

pipeman45 · 11-16-2005, 09:55 PM

Nice old Colt you have there. Ant chance we get to see the other side?

AGE · 11-17-2005, 12:32 AM

That's a 1911 Colt (at least the frame) made before 1927. 1911A1 frames are beveled for short trigger access.

Alan62 · 11-17-2005, 07:00 AM

Thanks Ed
I will try again with My Dads (one Day to be mine )Old Colt 44 HogLeg

Alan62 · 11-17-2005, 07:04 AM

And a pic for Pipeman
The other side of the 45

Alan62 · 11-17-2005, 07:09 AM

And again for Pipeman45 in case you meant the 32-20

Alan62 · 11-18-2005, 01:30 PM

Hello again folks
As I said in My first post (see first post)

I am considering buying a Luger from a friend and I am not sure what would be a fair price for this pistol

So as I promised in the first post I have taken several detaled pics and I am asking for your fair and objective evaluation.

I will post the first one in this post and then a link

Ron Smith · 11-18-2005, 02:15 PM

Alan,

Your link is only avaible to you. It is password protected. Post the other photos and a discription. Someone here will be happy to help.

Ron

Edward Tinker · 11-18-2005, 02:44 PM

I combined the threads since all the information was in the first thread.

Please post pictures here on this forum, as many times the pictures in photo bucket, etc get used to much or deleted and then the learning tool is gone for everyone.

Ed

Alan62 · 11-18-2005, 07:08 PM

Ok Thanks

Here is what I see
A 1915 German Luger with all matching numbers Except the magazine and (unfortuanatly) the Toggle.

I am not sure about the overall condition .

What would be a Fair price to offer for this pistol?

Thanks For any Help

Ron Smith · 11-18-2005, 08:32 PM

Alan,

Considering the pitted areas. My opinion would be $500-$600 tops. It's just barely over shooter grade. I would suggest waiting and finding one in better condition if you are looking for a collector grade Luger.

Ron

Alan62 · 11-18-2005, 08:46 PM

Am I right about the numbers,or is it common for them to have different numbers on the toggle?

policeluger · 11-18-2005, 09:01 PM

Hate to say it but Ron is right, and while mixed numbered guns are readly found, its the total matching numbered guns that are worth investing in, of course there are exceptions to the rule 500/550 tops, Ron, PL 2 elk 0.....

Alan62 · 11-18-2005, 10:36 PM

Thanks policeluger
I may make an offer on it as a shooter.

I apreciate the info and hope to get a few more responses before I contact the guy again and give him the evalution.

Alan62 · 11-20-2005, 01:49 AM

I wanted to thank you guys for all your help.
I decided not to get that Luger and instead I bought this

I guess I will just keep boring you guys with my other guns untill I find a luger I like.

By the way the picture is of a Winchester Model 1892 32-20 WCF from 1907

Its a rooting tooting cowboy type gun

solman · 11-25-2005, 02:13 AM

ala, i just got a matching 1915 DWM luger,less clip(which i proptly broke) but its all matching, way less pitting but not so good of a blue, kinda a yellow color, less the toggle, thats blue. also the clip on the ww1's is wood? bottom. got it for 500. they are around.

11-16-2005, 05:27 PM	#1
Alan62 User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Newbie says hello and evaluation of a pistol Hello folks I recently started collecting vintage firearms and now have 4 vintage pieces. 1 is a 1943 S'G' M1 Carbine 2 is a 1921 Colt "Army Special" revolver 3 is a 1947 Colt "Government Model" 45 ACP and 4 is a 1918 Colt "Black Army" 45 ACP I have found a friend that has a Luger and I want to buy it. All I know right now is that it is a 1915 with the fancy DWM on the top and it is in reasonably good condition. The reason I am posting this is that I will be getting the pistol either later this afternoon or tomorrow to evaluate more closely. I will take detailed pics and try to post them to get you Luger guys to help me evaluate a fair price for the pistol(if you will). I am going to attempt to post a pic of my 45 just to test the waters. I hope y'all don't mind. http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...tacp011web.jpg Thank you in advance for any help you can provide me.

11-16-2005, 05:48 PM	#2
Alan62 User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just another attempt at posting a pic \image{http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...921Colt010.jpg} __________________ Thanks

11-16-2005, 07:10 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Alan, use the forum upload feature, then after uploadign the picture, then copy it, and click on IMG and paste the url there. Ensure you use ADD REPLY and not quick reply. Welcome to the forum, we look forward to seeing your guns. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-16-2005, 09:55 PM	#4
pipeman45 User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kentucky Posts: 539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Nice old Colt you have there. Ant chance we get to see the other side? __________________ Dave

11-17-2005, 12:32 AM	#5
AGE User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 597 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	That's a 1911 Colt (at least the frame) made before 1927. 1911A1 frames are beveled for short trigger access. __________________ Al Eggers (AGE) NRA Life Member

11-17-2005, 07:00 AM	#6
Alan62 User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Ed I will try again with My Dads (one Day to be mine )Old Colt 44 HogLeg __________________ Thanks

11-17-2005, 07:04 AM	#7
Alan62 User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	And a pic for Pipeman The other side of the 45 __________________ Thanks

11-17-2005, 07:09 AM	#8
Alan62 User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	And again for Pipeman45 in case you meant the 32-20 __________________ Thanks

11-18-2005, 01:30 PM	#9
Alan62 User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Help me price this Luger please Hello again folks As I said in My first post (see first post) I am considering buying a Luger from a friend and I am not sure what would be a fair price for this pistol So as I promised in the first post I have taken several detaled pics and I am asking for your fair and objective evaluation. I will post the first one in this post and then a link __________________ Thanks

11-18-2005, 02:15 PM	#10
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Alan, Your link is only avaible to you. It is password protected. Post the other photos and a discription. Someone here will be happy to help. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

11-18-2005, 02:44 PM	#11
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	I combined the threads since all the information was in the first thread. Please post pictures here on this forum, as many times the pictures in photo bucket, etc get used to much or deleted and then the learning tool is gone for everyone. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-18-2005, 07:08 PM	#12
Alan62 User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok Thanks Here is what I see A 1915 German Luger with all matching numbers Except the magazine and (unfortuanatly) the Toggle. I am not sure about the overall condition . What would be a Fair price to offer for this pistol? Thanks For any Help __________________ Thanks

11-18-2005, 08:32 PM	#13
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Alan, Considering the pitted areas. My opinion would be $500-$600 tops. It's just barely over shooter grade. I would suggest waiting and finding one in better condition if you are looking for a collector grade Luger. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

11-18-2005, 08:46 PM	#14
Alan62 User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Am I right about the numbers,or is it common for them to have different numbers on the toggle? __________________ Thanks

11-18-2005, 09:01 PM	#15
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Hate to say it but Ron is right, and while mixed numbered guns are readly found, its the total matching numbered guns that are worth investing in, of course there are exceptions to the rule 500/550 tops, Ron, PL 2 elk 0.....

11-18-2005, 10:36 PM	#16
Alan62 User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks policeluger I may make an offer on it as a shooter. I apreciate the info and hope to get a few more responses before I contact the guy again and give him the evalution. __________________ Thanks

11-20-2005, 01:49 AM	#17
Alan62 User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I wanted to thank you guys for all your help. I decided not to get that Luger and instead I bought this I guess I will just keep boring you guys with my other guns untill I find a luger I like. By the way the picture is of a Winchester Model 1892 32-20 WCF from 1907 Its a rooting tooting cowboy type gun __________________ Thanks

11-25-2005, 02:13 AM	#18
solman New User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: north bend washington Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ala, i just got a matching 1915 DWM luger,less clip(which i proptly broke) but its all matching, way less pitting but not so good of a blue, kinda a yellow color, less the toggle, thats blue. also the clip on the ww1's is wood? bottom. got it for 500. they are around. __________________ Trompe la mort