Sad auction

wworker · 12-05-2005, 10:07 PM

This seller may have some very nice Lugers, but you can't tell it from the photos.

It's a shame he spends so much time listing auctions, but doesn't have the time to "do it right".

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=41139776

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Please do not ask for moe pictures, these are the best that I can do.

Pete Ebbink · 12-05-2005, 10:13 PM

This vendor (Ian Campbell and/or Don Fischer) does not enjoy a good reputation amongst collectors...especially the older ones that know when this fellow was active on the gun show circuit.

Best to find other "recommended" dealers such as the folks at FGS, Simpsons, Joe Salter, etc...

Also...some of the Big luger dealers may not get glowing recommendations here on the Forum. A lack of recommendations about some dealers "speaks volumes" as well...

tracyp · 12-05-2005, 10:17 PM

There maybe a reason behind his poor picture taking. This dealer has been discussed many times on this forum. Seardh under "dfk"

Dwight Gruber · 12-06-2005, 12:21 AM

Also search under "Copperas Cove"

--Dwight

12-06-2005, 12:59 AM

I have had dealing with the man in Copperas Cove. Run as fast as you can. Don't look back.

trigger643 · 12-08-2005, 12:16 AM

He's been around along time under various names and addresses... 'nough said

Navy · 12-08-2005, 07:36 AM

"Please do not ask for moe pictures, these are the best that I can do."

I wonder if he can do Larry pictures. Or Shemp or Curley?

Tom A

the gunman · 12-08-2005, 09:03 AM

"STAY FAR FAR AWAY"

Curly1 · 12-08-2005, 05:56 PM

Hey I resemble that remark Tom NYUK NYUK NYUK NYUK NYUK.

My 5 year old niece can put together a better pic than that geez give me a break is he a midget?

trigger643 · 12-09-2005, 07:46 AM

This guy had several SS branded (in the grips) lugers back in the early '90s at a Dallas gunshow. Amazing how many of these "oh so rare" guns came to be assembled at one place - his table. --Back away slowly, I say.

Pete Ebbink · 12-09-2005, 12:34 PM

Send "Ian" an email and ask him if he is really "Don Fischer"...

trigger643 · 12-09-2005, 12:58 PM

Pete, I doubt he'll respond. You may want to send it to Don and ask him if he's Ian?

wworker · 12-09-2005, 01:05 PM

Thanks for the advice guys.

It's probably a good thing to bring up a subject like this once in awhile to keep us new guys from going astray.

thegundude · 12-10-2005, 12:05 AM

Ken, I've been watching that guys auctions for a long time too and thought exactly the same thing... You can just tell there's something wrong with his stuff. The pictures are much too consistantly bad and for no particular reason. The "Dont ask for more pictures" and "don't ask the reserve price" are also two big red flags.

I didn't realize that he was infamous too...

var99 · 12-11-2005, 04:55 AM

A while back he had an LP08 holster on ebay that looked fake, with the same bad photos. The interesting thing was that in his description he guaranteed the piece to be genuine, but then also had a no return policy. I asked him what the point was of guarentee, if he would not accept a return, and he got all indignant, and indicated that if I did not trust him I should not bid, which of course I didn't, and if I recall correctly none else did either.

Vince

12-08-2005, 12:16 AM	#6
trigger643 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Murfreesboro Posts: 502 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	He's been around along time under various names and addresses... 'nough said __________________ "There are three reasons to own a gun: To protect yourself and your family, to hunt dangerous and delicious animals, and to keep the King of England out of your face." Ã¢?? Krusty the Clown

12-08-2005, 05:56 PM	#9
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,242 Thanks: 117 Thanked 714 Times in 371 Posts	Hey I resemble that remark Tom NYUK NYUK NYUK NYUK NYUK. My 5 year old niece can put together a better pic than that geez give me a break is he a midget? __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

12-09-2005, 07:46 AM	#10
trigger643 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Murfreesboro Posts: 502 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	This guy had several SS branded (in the grips) lugers back in the early '90s at a Dallas gunshow. Amazing how many of these "oh so rare" guns came to be assembled at one place - his table. --Back away slowly, I say. __________________ "There are three reasons to own a gun: To protect yourself and your family, to hunt dangerous and delicious animals, and to keep the King of England out of your face." Ã¢?? Krusty the Clown

12-09-2005, 12:58 PM	#12
trigger643 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Murfreesboro Posts: 502 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Pete, I doubt he'll respond. You may want to send it to Don and ask him if he's Ian? __________________ "There are three reasons to own a gun: To protect yourself and your family, to hunt dangerous and delicious animals, and to keep the King of England out of your face." Ã¢?? Krusty the Clown

12-10-2005, 12:05 AM	#14
thegundude User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Western NC Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 3 Thanked 16 Times in 3 Posts	Ken, I've been watching that guys auctions for a long time too and thought exactly the same thing... You can just tell there's something wrong with his stuff. The pictures are much too consistantly bad and for no particular reason. The "Dont ask for more pictures" and "don't ask the reserve price" are also two big red flags. I didn't realize that he was infamous too... __________________ Keep your knees in the breeze and your iron in the air. ~Steve

12-05-2005, 10:13 PM	#2
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	This vendor (Ian Campbell and/or Don Fischer) does not enjoy a good reputation amongst collectors...especially the older ones that know when this fellow was active on the gun show circuit. Best to find other "recommended" dealers such as the folks at FGS, Simpsons, Joe Salter, etc... Also...some of the Big luger dealers may not get glowing recommendations here on the Forum. A lack of recommendations about some dealers "speaks volumes" as well...

12-05-2005, 10:17 PM	#3
tracyp User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 391 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	There maybe a reason behind his poor picture taking. This dealer has been discussed many times on this forum. Seardh under "dfk"

12-06-2005, 12:21 AM	#4
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	Also search under "Copperas Cove" --Dwight

12-06-2005, 12:59 AM	#5
RGARRETT Guest Posts: n/a	I have had dealing with the man in Copperas Cove. Run as fast as you can. Don't look back.

12-08-2005, 07:36 AM	#7
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	"Please do not ask for moe pictures, these are the best that I can do." I wonder if he can do Larry pictures. Or Shemp or Curley? Tom A

12-08-2005, 09:03 AM	#8
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	"STAY FAR FAR AWAY"

12-09-2005, 12:34 PM	#11
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Send "Ian" an email and ask him if he is really "Don Fischer"...

12-09-2005, 01:05 PM	#13
wworker User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the advice guys. It's probably a good thing to bring up a subject like this once in awhile to keep us new guys from going astray.

12-11-2005, 04:55 AM	#15
var99 User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: FL Posts: 114 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Ian C A while back he had an LP08 holster on ebay that looked fake, with the same bad photos. The interesting thing was that in his description he guaranteed the piece to be genuine, but then also had a no return policy. I asked him what the point was of guarentee, if he would not accept a return, and he got all indignant, and indicated that if I did not trust him I should not bid, which of course I didn't, and if I recall correctly none else did either. Vince