luftwaffe erfurt

Edward Tinker · 01-15-2006, 10:23 AM

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=42405631

This story is plausible, except for a few things...

What kind is the dagger? It is in good shape, so did bob smoh take this poor erfurt with him deer hunting as often as RK goes out?

I don't think I have ever seen toggles so worn?

Ed

Vlim · 01-15-2006, 10:43 AM

Haha, Good story....

I can't imagine a WW2 Luftwaffe pilot going down wearing his dress dagger and a battered old Erfurt.

He was probably shot down during the battle of Britain in his Fokker triplane

c3006 · 01-15-2006, 11:04 AM

I think I detect a hint of skepticism here

Russ · 01-15-2006, 11:06 AM

He has had that gun for awile. the dagger is new. buyer beware!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Russ

Lyn Islaub · 01-15-2006, 01:59 PM

Ed,
The dagger is a first model Luftwaffe and the maker is Alcoso. This model Luft was standard until about 1938 when a second and cheaper model that more resembles the Army dagger became available. The scabbard was covered in blue leather that would have rotted and have been long gone by the time this so called "discovery" was made.
Lyn

Dwight Gruber · 01-15-2006, 02:17 PM

The hallmark on this dagger appears to have been pantographed. Would this have been the normal method of application?

--Dwight

Lyn Islaub · 01-15-2006, 11:11 PM

Dwight,
As I understand it, there were two methods used to imprint the manufacturers logos and inscriptions on these blades; the first being to imprint the logo using a die under heavy pressure or secondly to acid etch through a template.
Lyn

ViggoG · 01-15-2006, 11:54 PM

Ed,

I'm Fully Convvinced that this Erfurt was artifically Antiqued overnight in a cement mixer with a bucket of gravel, Such a pity it was once a beautiful side arm.

ViggoG

01-15-2006, 10:23 AM	#1
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	luftwaffe erfurt http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=42405631 This story is plausible, except for a few things... What kind is the dagger? It is in good shape, so did bob smoh take this poor erfurt with him deer hunting as often as RK goes out? I don't think I have ever seen toggles so worn? Ed

01-15-2006, 11:04 AM	#3
c3006 User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: east tn Posts: 526 Thanks: 5 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts	I think I detect a hint of skepticism here __________________ Men Accustomed unto thier arms and their liberties will never endure the yoke. James Harrington 1776

01-15-2006, 11:06 AM	#4
Russ User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Reading, PA. Posts: 628 Thanks: 2 Thanked 38 Times in 10 Posts	He has had that gun for awile. the dagger is new. buyer beware!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Russ __________________ Livin the dream!!!!!!!!!!!

01-15-2006, 10:43 AM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	Haha, Good story.... I can't imagine a WW2 Luftwaffe pilot going down wearing his dress dagger and a battered old Erfurt. He was probably shot down during the battle of Britain in his Fokker triplane

01-15-2006, 01:59 PM	#5
Lyn Islaub Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 435 Thanks: 3 Thanked 152 Times in 72 Posts	Ed, The dagger is a first model Luftwaffe and the maker is Alcoso. This model Luft was standard until about 1938 when a second and cheaper model that more resembles the Army dagger became available. The scabbard was covered in blue leather that would have rotted and have been long gone by the time this so called "discovery" was made. Lyn

01-15-2006, 02:17 PM	#6
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	The hallmark on this dagger appears to have been pantographed. Would this have been the normal method of application? --Dwight

01-15-2006, 11:11 PM	#7
Lyn Islaub Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 435 Thanks: 3 Thanked 152 Times in 72 Posts	Dwight, As I understand it, there were two methods used to imprint the manufacturers logos and inscriptions on these blades; the first being to imprint the logo using a die under heavy pressure or secondly to acid etch through a template. Lyn

01-15-2006, 11:54 PM	#8
ViggoG RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: South Side Virginia Posts: 534 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Ed, I'm Fully Convvinced that this Erfurt was artifically Antiqued overnight in a cement mixer with a bucket of gravel, Such a pity it was once a beautiful side arm. ViggoG