Value of LE Police Sneak?

Bob in OH · 04-14-2006, 09:49 PM

I bought this one several years ago and just had to have it back then. I did post pics of this one so apologize for the redundancy. I was pleased with what I learned, but we never did talk value back then. So now I am interested. While I don't plan to sell, I am curious how it has appreciated in the past 24-30 months. Curious what you think for value.

This rig is a total, original match. The holster, two mags, and tool (not shown) are numbered to the L.E. 136 unit.

Thanks...Bob

John Sabato · 04-14-2006, 10:31 PM

Bob, I am hesitant to give you a value... but that is ONE RIGHTEOUS LUGER RIG!... I will let the serious collectors venture a guess on the value... that gun is WAY out of my league... I am sure it has appreciated at least 30% since you bought it...

policeluger · 04-15-2006, 12:28 AM

beautiful, I am sure a rig as righteous as this would bring in excess of 3k.

Edward Tinker · 04-15-2006, 12:35 AM

I was thinking 2200-$2500, but if my cheap friend Howard

says 3k, then, boy, oh wow...

ed

Bob in OH · 04-15-2006, 08:15 AM

Just a tad more info... I checked my books and bought this one about 22 months ago for 2K. It was at a local live auction and I just "had to have it" given the completeness of the rig and condition. Looking back, I'm delighted to have it tucked away and it probably will be the only 2 matched mag Luger I own.

I know prices have jumped and a possible 3K+ value is a very good thing. I'd venture to say Simpson would have it at in that neighborhood++.

policeluger · 04-15-2006, 10:47 AM

If you want your 2k back, I'll Fedex you a MO this afternoon....

hqbmw · 04-15-2006, 03:49 PM

I thought I was blessed with my double date police that matches down to the holster and ONE mag, but your rig is over the top. Well bought and IMHO as good as it gets for the breed.

Due to some fantastic offers (a one owner M1C to name one) that I am considering, I have been considering selling my Police rig so the value you get out of yours will reflect on mine, but what a nice rig you have!

Jack Hiles
Mesa AZ

Bob in OH · 04-15-2006, 10:08 PM

Jack (and others)- Thanks for the kudos! I'm guess that the police Lugers saw less "work" and are more likely to have remained intact than military Lugs re: the 2 mags. Regardless, this ole boy was wowed by the completeness. Jack, I'm sure you have a great one too and good luck with your sale...B

TAXRX · 01-05-2008, 04:05 PM

BOB,
I saw your photos. what is the notch cut in the right side for? I also have one on my simson.
thanks
hn

TAXRX · 01-05-2008, 04:07 PM

Bob,
sorry notch is on left side. I am somewhat brain dead.
thanks
hn

Bob in OH · 01-05-2008, 04:34 PM

I believe that is a remnant of a "mag safety" devise which has been removed. Perhaps required for police Lugers and then abolished. I hope I have this right, but if not, someone will assist...

Dwight Gruber · 01-05-2008, 06:38 PM

Bob,

You are quite right. Magazine safety mandated in 1933, rescinded with an order for the device to be deactivated (very often removed) 1937.

Any chance you could report the full serial number with suffix?

--Dwight

Don M · 01-05-2008, 10:53 PM

Bob, I've shorted out my keyboard with drool!!!

Edward Tinker · 01-05-2008, 10:57 PM

Bob, somehow I had missed this posting when you first posted. I agree with Don.... not many better than this

Ed

Bob in OH · 01-06-2008, 12:57 AM

Dwight-- this is an s-block, 6550...

Aaron · 01-06-2008, 01:38 AM

Bob, yours is a top-of-the-line rig as far as police Lugers go. That having been said, your comment about police Lugers being subjected to less hard use than military types got me to thinking about the relative rarity of two matching mag rigs. I would list four categories in the following order of rarity, beginning with the rarest:

1. Navy rigs
2. WW I military rigs
3. WW II military rigs
4. Weimar military rigs
5. Police rigs

Can anyone add to and/or refine these categories?

Edward Tinker · 01-06-2008, 02:49 AM

for germany I think you have it down pat. The other countries that used lugers were too diverse for me to attempt a matrix....

Ed

Dwight Gruber · 01-06-2008, 05:49 AM

Bob,

Thanks much for the number.

--Dwight

SteveM · 01-06-2008, 12:29 PM

I think WW1 rigs should be divided into 2 categories: DWM and Erfurt, then down to P08 and LP08's.

04-14-2006, 09:49 PM	#1
Bob in OH User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NE OH Posts: 129 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Value of LE Police Sneak? I bought this one several years ago and just had to have it back then. I did post pics of this one so apologize for the redundancy. I was pleased with what I learned, but we never did talk value back then. So now I am interested. While I don't plan to sell, I am curious how it has appreciated in the past 24-30 months. Curious what you think for value. This rig is a total, original match. The holster, two mags, and tool (not shown) are numbered to the L.E. 136 unit. Thanks...Bob

04-14-2006, 10:31 PM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Bob, I am hesitant to give you a value... but that is ONE RIGHTEOUS LUGER RIG!... I will let the serious collectors venture a guess on the value... that gun is WAY out of my league... I am sure it has appreciated at least 30% since you bought it... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

01-05-2008, 10:53 PM	#13
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	Bob, I've shorted out my keyboard with drool!!! __________________ Regards, Don [email protected] Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

01-05-2008, 10:57 PM	#14
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Bob, somehow I had missed this posting when you first posted. I agree with Don.... not many better than this Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-06-2008, 02:49 AM	#17
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	for germany I think you have it down pat. The other countries that used lugers were too diverse for me to attempt a matrix.... Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

04-15-2006, 12:28 AM	#3
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	beautiful, I am sure a rig as righteous as this would bring in excess of 3k.

04-15-2006, 12:35 AM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	I was thinking 2200-$2500, but if my cheap friend Howard says 3k, then, boy, oh wow... ed

04-15-2006, 08:15 AM	#5
Bob in OH User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NE OH Posts: 129 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Just a tad more info... I checked my books and bought this one about 22 months ago for 2K. It was at a local live auction and I just "had to have it" given the completeness of the rig and condition. Looking back, I'm delighted to have it tucked away and it probably will be the only 2 matched mag Luger I own. I know prices have jumped and a possible 3K+ value is a very good thing. I'd venture to say Simpson would have it at in that neighborhood++.

04-15-2006, 10:47 AM	#6
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	If you want your 2k back, I'll Fedex you a MO this afternoon....

04-15-2006, 03:49 PM	#7
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I thought I was blessed with my double date police that matches down to the holster and ONE mag, but your rig is over the top. Well bought and IMHO as good as it gets for the breed. Due to some fantastic offers (a one owner M1C to name one) that I am considering, I have been considering selling my Police rig so the value you get out of yours will reflect on mine, but what a nice rig you have! Jack Hiles Mesa AZ

04-15-2006, 10:08 PM	#8
Bob in OH User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NE OH Posts: 129 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Jack (and others)- Thanks for the kudos! I'm guess that the police Lugers saw less "work" and are more likely to have remained intact than military Lugs re: the 2 mags. Regardless, this ole boy was wowed by the completeness. Jack, I'm sure you have a great one too and good luck with your sale...B

01-05-2008, 04:05 PM	#9
TAXRX User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: N. VIRGINIA Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	BOB, I saw your photos. what is the notch cut in the right side for? I also have one on my simson. thanks hn

01-05-2008, 04:07 PM	#10
TAXRX User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: N. VIRGINIA Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bob, sorry notch is on left side. I am somewhat brain dead. thanks hn

01-05-2008, 04:34 PM	#11
Bob in OH User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NE OH Posts: 129 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I believe that is a remnant of a "mag safety" devise which has been removed. Perhaps required for police Lugers and then abolished. I hope I have this right, but if not, someone will assist...

01-05-2008, 06:38 PM	#12
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	Bob, You are quite right. Magazine safety mandated in 1933, rescinded with an order for the device to be deactivated (very often removed) 1937. Any chance you could report the full serial number with suffix? --Dwight

01-06-2008, 12:57 AM	#15
Bob in OH User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NE OH Posts: 129 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Dwight-- this is an s-block, 6550...

01-06-2008, 01:38 AM	#16
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Bob, yours is a top-of-the-line rig as far as police Lugers go. That having been said, your comment about police Lugers being subjected to less hard use than military types got me to thinking about the relative rarity of two matching mag rigs. I would list four categories in the following order of rarity, beginning with the rarest: 1. Navy rigs 2. WW I military rigs 3. WW II military rigs 4. Weimar military rigs 5. Police rigs Can anyone add to and/or refine these categories?

01-06-2008, 05:49 AM	#18
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	Bob, Thanks much for the number. --Dwight

01-06-2008, 12:29 PM	#19
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	I think WW1 rigs should be divided into 2 categories: DWM and Erfurt, then down to P08 and LP08's.