Oberndorf P-08Navy Luger?

waffenrec · 10-10-2006, 07:37 PM

Hi at all, I am asking for your help again!!!!

One dealer in Germany, (I live in Argentina) told me that this pistol is:
"The Ã¢??Oberndorf P-08Ã¢?Â is number 310 V (very, very low), is in exc cond, inside and outside, all matching, and I never seen one for sale, or know about one for sale (neither in Internet)
This pistols were built in Oberndorf as the 1st production by the Mauser fabric in the early Ã?Â´30, all this info are in the Weimar and Early Nazi Lugers and Their Accessories - Volume III- pag258/279/288 -- by Jan C Still"

and for the marks in the front is a "Navy Luger"

please I enclosed a pics, if anyone can help me... Thanks!!!
Regards
Adrian from Argentina

Navy · 10-10-2006, 08:15 PM

Hi Waffenrec,

I cannot see any navy markings from your pics; perhaps if you would do some close ups.

Tom A

waffenrec · 10-10-2006, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom A
Hi Waffenrec,

I cannot see any navy markings from your pics; perhaps if you would do some close ups.

Tom A

Hi Tom, is this a Navy mark? can you tell me about this pistol?

Thanks again
Adrian

pursihei · 10-11-2006, 05:20 AM

Hi,
Is this 9mm? Is the letter suffix v or perhaps it is u? s,t or u suffix would make this an 29 DWM. O=Ostsee?

waffenrec · 10-11-2006, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pursihei
Hi,
Is this 9mm? Is the letter suffix v or perhaps it is u? s,t or u suffix would make this an 29 DWM. O=Ostsee?

Hello, no doubts is a V suffix, and the pistol is 9mm
Thanks

waffenrec · 10-11-2006, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by waffenrec
Hello, no doubts is a V suffix, and the pistol is 9mm
Thanks

Hello, here I am again, no doubts is a V suffix, and the pistol is 9mm
Thanks

Edward Tinker · 10-11-2006, 08:27 AM

What suffix marking is on the front of the frame, the normal place for the suffix...

Ed

waffenrec · 10-11-2006, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Edward Tinker
What suffix marking is on the front of the frame, the normal place for the suffix...

Ed

Hi Edward, is the same in the barrel
Thanks
Adrian

Navy · 10-11-2006, 09:31 AM

It is a late Weimar Navy, Kiel issue. These were pulled from normal DWM commercial production. Not many around and most collectors have little knowledge of the Weimar Navy.

Tom A

waffenrec · 10-11-2006, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom A
It is a late Weimar Navy, Kiel issue. These were pulled from normal DWM commercial production. Not many around and most collectors have little knowledge of the Weimar Navy.

Tom A

Hi Tom, thanks for your answer, did you read in the Still book? this coincides !!!

This pistols were built in Oberndorf as the 1st production by the Mauser fabric in the early Ã?Â´30, all this info are in the Weimar and Early Nazi Lugers and Their Accessories - Volume III- pag258/279/288 -- by Jan C Still

Regards
Adrian

lew1 · 10-11-2006, 01:13 PM

Adrian,

Tom has sufficient experience with navy lugers so that he would not now have to refer to the book you mentioned. In fact, Tom is the preocess of writing a book on navy lugers.

waffenrec · 10-11-2006, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lew1
Adrian,

Tom has sufficient experience with navy lugers so that he would not now have to refer to the book you mentioned. In fact, Tom is the preocess of writing a book on navy lugers.

Lew1, I'm sorry, in any moment I doubt about Tom experience, just I mentioned a point that is in a very grateful book, just this...

waffenrec · 10-11-2006, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom A
Hi Adrian,

I am, as usual these days, traveling and did not have access to my research library.

Tom A.

Hi Tom, thanks for your answer, I just mentioned a point, that is considered in a remarcable Luger book.

Regards
Adrian

Navy · 10-11-2006, 11:15 PM

Lew1,

I am humbled by such words.

While Navy Lugers are an area in which I may lay claim to being a reasonably knowledgable individual, I , like all am subject to human error and "dis-remembering" things-That is remembering something that is pertinent but WRONG. I make many boo-boos, but I am very active in Luger acquisition and perhaps I am right 51% of the time.

In any event, thank you for the vote of confidence.

Adrian, you are correct, these Weimar Navy pieces are treasures and the buying public has virtually no knowledge about them. I jump on them whenever i find them.

From the Road,

Tom A

waffenrec · 10-12-2006, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom A
Lew1,

I am humbled by such words.

While Navy Lugers are an area in which I may lay claim to being a reasonably knowledgable individual, I , like all am subject to human error and "dis-remembering" things-That is remembering something that is pertinent but WRONG. I make many boo-boos, but I am very active in Luger acquisition and perhaps I am right 51% of the time.

In any event, thank you for the vote of confidence.

Adrian, you are correct, these Weimar Navy pieces are treasures and the buying public has virtually no knowledge about them. I jump on them whenever i find them.

From the Road,

Tom A

Hi Tom, thanks for your words,

Regards
Adrian

Lyn Islaub · 10-12-2006, 06:51 PM

Adrian,
I travel to Buenos Aires 6 to 8 times a year on business and would be interested in meeting you the next time I visit. Send me your e-mail address via private message and I'll get in touch with you when I'm in BA in January.
Lyn

10-10-2006, 07:37 PM	#1
waffenrec User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Buenos Aires Argentina Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oberndorf P-08Navy Luger? Hi at all, I am asking for your help again!!!! One dealer in Germany, (I live in Argentina) told me that this pistol is: "The Ã¢??Oberndorf P-08Ã¢?Â is number 310 V (very, very low), is in exc cond, inside and outside, all matching, and I never seen one for sale, or know about one for sale (neither in Internet) This pistols were built in Oberndorf as the 1st production by the Mauser fabric in the early Ã?Â´30, all this info are in the Weimar and Early Nazi Lugers and Their Accessories - Volume III- pag258/279/288 -- by Jan C Still" and for the marks in the front is a "Navy Luger" please I enclosed a pics, if anyone can help me... Thanks!!! Regards Adrian from Argentina

10-11-2006, 05:20 AM	#4
pursihei User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Hi, Is this 9mm? Is the letter suffix v or perhaps it is u? s,t or u suffix would make this an 29 DWM. O=Ostsee? __________________ JPu

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lew1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 82 Thanked 204 Times in 112 Posts	Adrian, Tom has sufficient experience with navy lugers so that he would not now have to refer to the book you mentioned. In fact, Tom is the preocess of writing a book on navy lugers. __________________ charlie

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Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Hi Waffenrec, I cannot see any navy markings from your pics; perhaps if you would do some close ups. Tom A

10-11-2006, 09:31 AM	#9
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	It is a late Weimar Navy, Kiel issue. These were pulled from normal DWM commercial production. Not many around and most collectors have little knowledge of the Weimar Navy. Tom A

10-11-2006, 11:15 PM	#14
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Lew1, I am humbled by such words. While Navy Lugers are an area in which I may lay claim to being a reasonably knowledgable individual, I , like all am subject to human error and "dis-remembering" things-That is remembering something that is pertinent but WRONG. I make many boo-boos, but I am very active in Luger acquisition and perhaps I am right 51% of the time. In any event, thank you for the vote of confidence. Adrian, you are correct, these Weimar Navy pieces are treasures and the buying public has virtually no knowledge about them. I jump on them whenever i find them. From the Road, Tom A

10-12-2006, 06:51 PM	#16
Lyn Islaub Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 435 Thanks: 3 Thanked 152 Times in 72 Posts	Adrian, I travel to Buenos Aires 6 to 8 times a year on business and would be interested in meeting you the next time I visit. Send me your e-mail address via private message and I'll get in touch with you when I'm in BA in January. Lyn