Looking for a .45

Motown · 10-29-2006, 07:38 AM

The last time I asked a '...does anybody know where to get...' question, I got the name Ralph Shattuck- so given the quality of that recommendation, I thought I'd try it again. I'm looking for a WW-II US Govt .45, any suggestions?
Cheers.

c3006 · 10-29-2006, 09:16 AM

http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php
He allways has some nice ones if you arent looking for bargins. Happy huntin, c3006

Hugh · 10-29-2006, 12:40 PM

There are usually some nice ones on GUNBROKER, I picked up a beautiful 1913 commercial there.

Curly1 · 10-29-2006, 12:51 PM

Try Checkpoint Charlies too. http://www.checkpointcharlies.com/sh...&categoryid=13

thorin6 · 10-29-2006, 09:37 PM

Go to the "Wanted to Sell" section at
http://www.jouster.com/
(CSP Forums).
There always seems to be a USGI .45 up for sale, in various configurations and conditions.
You can also post your wants on the "Wanted to Buy" Section.

Motown · 11-09-2006, 08:44 PM

OK, thanks. I've looked at a BUNCH of these now and have no real concept of what's a reasonable price- the range is pretty large. What are your thoughts on a wartime produced pistol - matching, etc (collectible)? 2k? 3k? or less? I saw a WW I recently I was interested in, but the price of $3200 seemed a bit high...

Thanks again.
s/f,
Motown

Hugh · 11-09-2006, 09:42 PM

I have seen some pretty nice ones go on Gunbroker & Auctionarms for around $2000 or less. You have to be patient and bid late.

Edward Tinker · 11-09-2006, 11:22 PM

I saw several go at a live auction for less than $1200, as Hugh said, just look around, be patient etc...

Ed

thorin6 · 11-10-2006, 12:15 AM

For parkerized M1911A1s the Remington Rands tend to be the cheapest, a good specimen can be had for $900-$1100. Ithaca's next, around $1000-$1200. Colts run from $1000-$1500, US&S run up to $1800. The early WWII M1911A1's that are Du-lite Blue will set you back up to double those prices. Any arsenal rebuilt pistol that is so marked (AA, SA, RIA) will run some $100 to $200 less if slide and frame are from the same manufacturer and not refinished. Pistols that are all USGI, but have different slide and frame manufacturers (or obvious time differences such as an early RR Slide on a late war RR frame), have been reparkerized, and are not arsenal marked can be had for $600-$800. Don't even think about a Singer (upwards of $30,000 plus).

lugerluser · 11-10-2006, 09:38 AM

The guys are right, Gunbroker, Guns America, Auction Arms, or just google gun auctions. Great guns, MUCH better than Lugers! ................................................Just Kidding Guys!! Good luck

the gunman · 11-10-2006, 11:05 AM

How would you be able to get it in japan. Understand there gun laws some of the toughest in the world.

Motown · 11-11-2006, 07:36 AM

Excellent- I was looking hard at a 1918 produced version but thought the price a bit high, I'm quite patient. Thorin6 I appreciate your detailed response. I hate learning lessons someone else has already figured out.

I'm stationed in Japan, but my Dad lives in Southern Kalifornia (nearly as ridiculous as Japan when it comes to weapons...), and I have a good friend to do the inspections for me as I make my buys... only about 2.5 more years till I retire from this gun club and move back to the states and my collection... as for Japan- they are absolutely insane in their rules and laws when it comes to swords, knives, guns, etc. You can own a gun, but you have to be a member of a club- and pay dues- and taxes... and then there are the taxes... and the taxes... etc.

s/f,
Motown

Steve Richards · 11-12-2006, 02:38 AM

One thing to remember about the weapons laws in Japan is that they were written by Gen. Douglas McArthur. Occupying armies hate armed civilians!

Steve

Motown · 11-12-2006, 07:37 AM

Indeed... as was the 'castrating constitution'... but after Doug left they have become a generation of 'strawberries'- soft and easily bruised- in the words of some of the older generation I've spoken with here. The Military is very professional, and very well trained- but has not an offensive tactic in the entire program- strictly defensive. When the Chinese put their 'scientific' boats into the local waters, the Japanese send their Navy to protest... and then when the Chinese don't leave, the Japanese protest 'vehemently'... and the Chinese leave when they darned well please.

10-29-2006, 07:38 AM	#1
Motown User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Double Oak, TX Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Looking for a .45 The last time I asked a '...does anybody know where to get...' question, I got the name Ralph Shattuck- so given the quality of that recommendation, I thought I'd try it again. I'm looking for a WW-II US Govt .45, any suggestions? Cheers. __________________ "Avoid excessive sharpness or harshness of voice, which usually indicates the man who has shortcomings of his own to hide." --Field Marshall Erwin Rommel

10-29-2006, 09:16 AM	#2
c3006 User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: east tn Posts: 526 Thanks: 5 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts	http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php He allways has some nice ones if you arent looking for bargins. Happy huntin, c3006 __________________ Men Accustomed unto thier arms and their liberties will never endure the yoke. James Harrington 1776

10-29-2006, 12:40 PM	#3
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	There are usually some nice ones on GUNBROKER, I picked up a beautiful 1913 commercial there. __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

10-29-2006, 12:51 PM	#4
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,242 Thanks: 117 Thanked 714 Times in 371 Posts	Try Checkpoint Charlies too. http://www.checkpointcharlies.com/sh...&categoryid=13 __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

11-09-2006, 08:44 PM	#6
Motown User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Double Oak, TX Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	OK, thanks. I've looked at a BUNCH of these now and have no real concept of what's a reasonable price- the range is pretty large. What are your thoughts on a wartime produced pistol - matching, etc (collectible)? 2k? 3k? or less? I saw a WW I recently I was interested in, but the price of $3200 seemed a bit high... Thanks again. s/f, Motown __________________ "Avoid excessive sharpness or harshness of voice, which usually indicates the man who has shortcomings of his own to hide." --Field Marshall Erwin Rommel

10-29-2006, 09:37 PM	#5
thorin6 User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 43 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Go to the "Wanted to Sell" section at http://www.jouster.com/ (CSP Forums). There always seems to be a USGI .45 up for sale, in various configurations and conditions. You can also post your wants on the "Wanted to Buy" Section.

11-09-2006, 09:42 PM	#7
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	I have seen some pretty nice ones go on Gunbroker & Auctionarms for around $2000 or less. You have to be patient and bid late. __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

11-09-2006, 11:22 PM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	I saw several go at a live auction for less than $1200, as Hugh said, just look around, be patient etc... Ed

11-10-2006, 12:15 AM	#9
thorin6 User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 43 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	For parkerized M1911A1s the Remington Rands tend to be the cheapest, a good specimen can be had for $900-$1100. Ithaca's next, around $1000-$1200. Colts run from $1000-$1500, US&S run up to $1800. The early WWII M1911A1's that are Du-lite Blue will set you back up to double those prices. Any arsenal rebuilt pistol that is so marked (AA, SA, RIA) will run some $100 to $200 less if slide and frame are from the same manufacturer and not refinished. Pistols that are all USGI, but have different slide and frame manufacturers (or obvious time differences such as an early RR Slide on a late war RR frame), have been reparkerized, and are not arsenal marked can be had for $600-$800. Don't even think about a Singer (upwards of $30,000 plus).

11-10-2006, 09:38 AM	#10
lugerluser User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winchester, Virginia Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The guys are right, Gunbroker, Guns America, Auction Arms, or just google gun auctions. Great guns, MUCH better than Lugers! ................................................Just Kidding Guys!! Good luck __________________ "GOD IS!"

11-10-2006, 11:05 AM	#11
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	How would you be able to get it in japan. Understand there gun laws some of the toughest in the world.

11-11-2006, 07:36 AM	#12
Motown User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Double Oak, TX Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Excellent- I was looking hard at a 1918 produced version but thought the price a bit high, I'm quite patient. Thorin6 I appreciate your detailed response. I hate learning lessons someone else has already figured out. I'm stationed in Japan, but my Dad lives in Southern Kalifornia (nearly as ridiculous as Japan when it comes to weapons...), and I have a good friend to do the inspections for me as I make my buys... only about 2.5 more years till I retire from this gun club and move back to the states and my collection... as for Japan- they are absolutely insane in their rules and laws when it comes to swords, knives, guns, etc. You can own a gun, but you have to be a member of a club- and pay dues- and taxes... and then there are the taxes... and the taxes... etc. s/f, Motown __________________ "Avoid excessive sharpness or harshness of voice, which usually indicates the man who has shortcomings of his own to hide." --Field Marshall Erwin Rommel

11-12-2006, 02:38 AM	#13
Steve Richards User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 487 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	One thing to remember about the weapons laws in Japan is that they were written by Gen. Douglas McArthur. Occupying armies hate armed civilians! Steve

11-12-2006, 07:37 AM	#14
Motown User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Double Oak, TX Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Indeed... as was the 'castrating constitution'... but after Doug left they have become a generation of 'strawberries'- soft and easily bruised- in the words of some of the older generation I've spoken with here. The Military is very professional, and very well trained- but has not an offensive tactic in the entire program- strictly defensive. When the Chinese put their 'scientific' boats into the local waters, the Japanese send their Navy to protest... and then when the Chinese don't leave, the Japanese protest 'vehemently'... and the Chinese leave when they darned well please. __________________ "Avoid excessive sharpness or harshness of voice, which usually indicates the man who has shortcomings of his own to hide." --Field Marshall Erwin Rommel