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brain · 06-21-2007, 02:33 PM

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Balder · 06-21-2007, 04:09 PM

brain,

Congratulations on your first Luger - trust me when I say that you will get more of these contagious little things. I also have a 1911 DWM without the hold-open and with a regimental marking, serial # 32XX e.

Balder

brain · 06-21-2007, 04:23 PM

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Balder · 06-21-2007, 04:32 PM

That's pretty close for two guns that left the factory almost a hundred years ago - mine is 3297e.

Balder

thegundude · 06-21-2007, 04:40 PM

Nice looking forst aquisition, Brain.

And welcome to the LugerForums...

brain · 06-21-2007, 04:43 PM

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Balder · 06-21-2007, 04:50 PM

My 1911 DWM Luger was brought to FlorÃ?Â¸, Norway by an SOE agent some time during WW2. It seems that the Brits used whatever guns at hand to equip the armed forces. This one was probably picked up as war booty and taken back to the UK during or after WW1. Its unit marking B.8.R.5.13. - (Bayerisches 8 Infanterie-Regiment, Kompagnie 5, Waffe Nr.13) indicates that it saw service in a regiment that participated in the battle of Verdun in 1916. Corporal Adolf Hitler served with the same unit in said battle, so in my mind there is no doubt that this was his personal Luger ;D

Balder

Dwight Gruber · 06-21-2007, 04:54 PM

Brian,

Welcome to the Luger Forum, congratulations on your first Luger purchase and thanks very much for showing it to us.

The unit mark on your gun is that of a medical trooper of a Bavarian military support column. There have been several discussions of this mark, if you go to this link http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...light=bavarian you will find one here, althoug regrettably the pictures have expirerd.

There is another forum, Jan Still's Luger Forum, which also has discussino threads on these units, you can find them here:

http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp...Terms=bavarian

http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp...Terms=bavarian

http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp...Terms=bavarian

You will need to register to access this Forum.

The posts include a small database of these Bavarian unit marks; I've added yours.

--Dwight

jamese · 06-22-2007, 07:44 AM

Tac,
I'm 2nd generation German, US citizen, the word "kraut" and other such labels only reflect the users ignorance. In my line of work I have been called far worse and just one has to ignore such things.

Balder · 06-22-2007, 09:01 AM

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Originally posted by tacfoley
Dear Mr Balder - please forgive me, but your statement is incorrect.

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I hope this clears up this misconception.

tac

Dear Mr. tacfoley,

I am not quite sure what you are actually saying here. But if my "statement" (I would consider it an opinion rather than a statement) is incorrect, then I guess that all the references to the desperate handgun situation that I found in the SOE files at the National Archives in London must be incorrect as well.

Balder

lugerholsterrepair · 06-22-2007, 12:01 PM

Dear Mr Brain - please note that we are privileged to share this website with a number of native German posters as well as second and third generation US citizens of German ethnic origin. May I respectfully ask that you do discontinue the use of WW2 epithets in referring to them?

I couldn't agree more....

One other interesting note on the British arms shortage...There is an extensive artical written in the most recent NRA magazine on this very subject.
Jerry Burney

brain · 06-22-2007, 05:46 PM

wow. i'm sorry, i ment nothing derogatory as i have strong germanic roots myself.

Edward Tinker · 06-22-2007, 06:38 PM

It was a little comment, Tac corrected you lightly for it.

I AM UNSURE WHY FOLKS HAVE SUCH THIN SKINS RECENTLY??

... ?????

Why delete all your posts?

383 magnum · 06-23-2007, 12:21 PM

As far as folks having thin skins, I would say it goes both ways on this issue. These days, people are way too uptight and easily offended by politically incorrect words. If the word in question is so derogatory, then why did I see a sign in a German-American restaurant in Munster, Texas, that reads, "What do you call a grumpy German? A sour Kraut."
Perhaps the restaurant should be boycotted?
Carroll O'Connor used that term on the 70s sitcom "All in the Family," and it didn't seem to bother anyone back then. I doubt a TV show could get away with that today.

pipeman45 · 06-23-2007, 06:58 PM

For some unknown reason people today feel they have a legal right not to be offended. I remember that we have a God given right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. I don't remember when not being offended was added to the Bill of Rights. Can one of our more learned members bring me up to speed?

06-21-2007, 02:33 PM	#1
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thegundude User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Western NC Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 3 Thanked 16 Times in 3 Posts	Nice looking forst aquisition, Brain. And welcome to the LugerForums... __________________ Keep your knees in the breeze and your iron in the air. ~Steve

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jamese User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 789 Thanks: 0 Thanked 84 Times in 34 Posts	Tac, I'm 2nd generation German, US citizen, the word "kraut" and other such labels only reflect the users ignorance. In my line of work I have been called far worse and just one has to ignore such things. __________________ The "truth" is a matter of Perception

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lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Dear Mr Brain - please note that we are privileged to share this website with a number of native German posters as well as second and third generation US citizens of German ethnic origin. May I respectfully ask that you do discontinue the use of WW2 epithets in referring to them? I couldn't agree more.... One other interesting note on the British arms shortage...There is an extensive artical written in the most recent NRA magazine on this very subject. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

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pipeman45 User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kentucky Posts: 539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	For some unknown reason people today feel they have a legal right not to be offended. I remember that we have a God given right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. I don't remember when not being offended was added to the Bill of Rights. Can one of our more learned members bring me up to speed? __________________ Dave

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Balder User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 288 Thanks: 20 Thanked 34 Times in 19 Posts	brain, Congratulations on your first Luger - trust me when I say that you will get more of these contagious little things. I also have a 1911 DWM without the hold-open and with a regimental marking, serial # 32XX e. Balder

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Balder User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 288 Thanks: 20 Thanked 34 Times in 19 Posts	That's pretty close for two guns that left the factory almost a hundred years ago - mine is 3297e. Balder

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Balder User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 288 Thanks: 20 Thanked 34 Times in 19 Posts	My 1911 DWM Luger was brought to FlorÃ?Â¸, Norway by an SOE agent some time during WW2. It seems that the Brits used whatever guns at hand to equip the armed forces. This one was probably picked up as war booty and taken back to the UK during or after WW1. Its unit marking B.8.R.5.13. - (Bayerisches 8 Infanterie-Regiment, Kompagnie 5, Waffe Nr.13) indicates that it saw service in a regiment that participated in the battle of Verdun in 1916. Corporal Adolf Hitler served with the same unit in said battle, so in my mind there is no doubt that this was his personal Luger ;D Balder

06-21-2007, 04:54 PM	#13
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	Brian, Welcome to the Luger Forum, congratulations on your first Luger purchase and thanks very much for showing it to us. The unit mark on your gun is that of a medical trooper of a Bavarian military support column. There have been several discussions of this mark, if you go to this link http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...light=bavarian you will find one here, althoug regrettably the pictures have expirerd. There is another forum, Jan Still's Luger Forum, which also has discussino threads on these units, you can find them here: http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp...Terms=bavarian http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp...Terms=bavarian http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp...Terms=bavarian You will need to register to access this Forum. The posts include a small database of these Bavarian unit marks; I've added yours. --Dwight

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brain User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: lebanon,pa Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	wow. i'm sorry, i ment nothing derogatory as i have strong germanic roots myself.

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	It was a little comment, Tac corrected you lightly for it. I AM UNSURE WHY FOLKS HAVE SUCH THIN SKINS RECENTLY?? ... ????? Why delete all your posts?

06-23-2007, 12:21 PM	#19
383 magnum User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 120 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	As far as folks having thin skins, I would say it goes both ways on this issue. These days, people are way too uptight and easily offended by politically incorrect words. If the word in question is so derogatory, then why did I see a sign in a German-American restaurant in Munster, Texas, that reads, "What do you call a grumpy German? A sour Kraut." Perhaps the restaurant should be boycotted? Carroll O'Connor used that term on the 70s sitcom "All in the Family," and it didn't seem to bother anyone back then. I doubt a TV show could get away with that today.