Need info on Johnson Carbine

luscioman · 06-25-2007, 01:33 PM

I have a friend that just that inherited a 1941 Johnson Carbine. I was looking for what they are actually selling for and where is a good place to sell it. The condition is roughly 95%.

azlaw · 06-26-2007, 02:30 AM

It's interesting that you mention this, as Shotgun News just featured an article on the M2 Carbine. According to Pete Kokalis, the M1 Carbine entered production in 1941, but was only made by Inland initially. Additonal manufacturers started in March of 1942 through early 1943, in order:

Winchester
Underwood
National Postal Meter
Rock-Ola
Quality Hardware Machine
Pederson
Saginaw Steering Gear
Standard Products
IBM

I don't think that Iver Johnson started making these until the 1960s, I recall seeing them in the Sears catalog in the 1970's. So, if you have an Iver Johnson, then it probably isn't made in 1941, and if it was made in 1941, then it seems likey to be an Inland. WWII guns seem to be fetching about $600, +/- $150 depending on many things. Johnsons are going to be a lot less.

H

(And I found a link to a history of these things at http://www.fulton-armory.com/M1Carbine.htm)

Edward Tinker · 06-26-2007, 09:22 AM

Actually the Johnson battle rifle was a rifle the marines were trying to buy and they had the M1 Garand pushed on them. Which in the long run was a better deal, as the Johnson had some issues with it (rotary magazine or some such). Some were used in the pacific at the begining, so you see a few Johnsons for sale that have been reblued / restored.

They are fairly expensive, 4 or 5K if I remember right, but price has not gone up a lot over the years, limited targeted audience in wanting one.

I would go to gunboards.com and check out the US Military section or the Military Rifles section.

Ed

luscioman · 06-26-2007, 09:24 AM

Thanks for the Info. The blue book showed about 4k on it.

fg42 · 06-27-2007, 02:16 AM

http://www.jouster.com/cgi-bin/johnson/johnson.pl These two sites will give you great information on the Johnson 1941 rifle. http://johnsonautomatics.com/messageboard/ Bob Benson

06-25-2007, 01:33 PM	#1
luscioman User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 113 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Need info on Johnson Carbine I have a friend that just that inherited a 1941 Johnson Carbine. I was looking for what they are actually selling for and where is a good place to sell it. The condition is roughly 95%.

06-26-2007, 09:22 AM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Actually the Johnson battle rifle was a rifle the marines were trying to buy and they had the M1 Garand pushed on them. Which in the long run was a better deal, as the Johnson had some issues with it (rotary magazine or some such). Some were used in the pacific at the begining, so you see a few Johnsons for sale that have been reblued / restored. They are fairly expensive, 4 or 5K if I remember right, but price has not gone up a lot over the years, limited targeted audience in wanting one. I would go to gunboards.com and check out the US Military section or the Military Rifles section. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

06-26-2007, 02:30 AM	#2
azlaw User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 204 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	It's interesting that you mention this, as Shotgun News just featured an article on the M2 Carbine. According to Pete Kokalis, the M1 Carbine entered production in 1941, but was only made by Inland initially. Additonal manufacturers started in March of 1942 through early 1943, in order: Winchester Underwood National Postal Meter Rock-Ola Quality Hardware Machine Pederson Saginaw Steering Gear Standard Products IBM I don't think that Iver Johnson started making these until the 1960s, I recall seeing them in the Sears catalog in the 1970's. So, if you have an Iver Johnson, then it probably isn't made in 1941, and if it was made in 1941, then it seems likey to be an Inland. WWII guns seem to be fetching about $600, +/- $150 depending on many things. Johnsons are going to be a lot less. H (And I found a link to a history of these things at http://www.fulton-armory.com/M1Carbine.htm)

06-26-2007, 09:24 AM	#4
luscioman User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 113 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks for the Info. The blue book showed about 4k on it.

06-27-2007, 02:16 AM	#5
fg42 User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 90 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	http://www.jouster.com/cgi-bin/johnson/johnson.pl These two sites will give you great information on the Johnson 1941 rifle. http://johnsonautomatics.com/messageboard/ Bob Benson