Luger Rigs

Ted · 02-28-2001, 11:17 AM

I have noticed some people like to have a matching holster, mag type and take down tool. Does anyone here feel that way or do you just collect Lugers. I am starting to lean myself towards wanting the completed rig! I do have some catching up to do! Ted

bob · 02-28-2001, 11:25 AM

Ted,

I try to have a complete set with all my weapons in my collection, from 1911s, 1917s, C-96s, PPs, PPks, P-38s and of course LUGERS.

Would you not like to have a Naval or Artillery with all the goodies????

Frank · 02-28-2001, 11:30 AM

I really believe that each of us has their own preferences. Some collect Lugers, some P38's, some PPK's, etc. If you want to collect rigs, then so be it. I have several, but my feeling is that I would rather spend the bucks on a pistol. Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth !!

02-28-2001, 12:26 PM

I have a complete rig with all my Lugers except one. Most them are rigs which I have assembled with the correct tool and the proper mismatched magazine. I do have several that have the complete original rig because I got them from the veteran. I do collect pistols first and if I can get a complete rig I do so, but the pistol is the forst priority.

My collection consists of all handguns used by the Third Reich forces with the Luger and P.38 be the most prevalent.

marvin

Hugh · 02-28-2001, 05:57 PM

I have assembled complete rigs (with correct but unmatched extra mag)for some of my better grade Lugers, but don't try to do it with all of them.

Frank · 02-28-2001, 06:08 PM

The only rigs I have are those that I had to get when I bought a Luger I wanted. Except the 1917 Arty, which I am still trying to complete. And the 1917 Navy, which I haven't started.

Marvin · 02-28-2001, 07:17 PM

Frank,

Good Luck on finding a nice holster rig for your Artillery. I have a 1917 artillery in approx. 95-96% condition and it came in an unmarked Art. holster with the cleaning rod. I bought this from a dealer whom I know and he said he got the rig from a veteran from WWII. i don't know how it was carried, but there are no shoulder straps and it did not come with the rest of the harness. I did add a shoulder stock to it about 1 year ago. I sure wish I knew some history behind it.

marvin

Frank · 02-28-2001, 07:54 PM

Marvin, I got the gun, I got the holster, I got the stock. I got a repro boot, I got a repro boot strap, I got a commercial magazine pouch. I need original boot, boot strap, magazine pouch and shoulder straps. I accept your good lucks. Man they are hard to find !!!!

BILL · 03-01-2001, 01:07 AM

Normally I would say "doesn't everyone try to acquire the full rig to match their pistol?" but with all the emotions surrounding this practice (and all the tiptoeing around it) I guess I will have to just say "I do, and I am". I have always tried to have a correct mag and rig for any military pistols that I have. A western tooled cowboy holster with a cartridge loop belt for a 1908 commercial just wouldn't seem right (well, maybe if it had the leather tie down straps). If I had 1600+ Lugers then it would be a different story.

Marvin · 03-01-2001, 07:53 AM

Speaking of rigs. The way holsters were shipped from the factory to the distribution depots, and finally to the local armory, a Luger could have a holster one year before or one year after the pistol date and still be correct. As holsters were put into inventory, the stamps did not mean anything to anyone as they were issued. The Germans used the last in, first out system of distribution. If a large depot had a big quantity of holsters, the ones put in first may not get shipped to the local areas for a while. I also like to get the same year holster with the pistol, but the one year before or after also works.

In addition, a rig may be 100% correct for the early Lugers (1935, 1936, etc.) because I am sure the holsters would be replaced in a few years if they were damaged and they would be the later years production. So, a 1936 Luger would be correct if it had a 1942 holster. What are some other thoughts?

Marvin

03-01-2001, 09:34 AM

Ted et al, The only Luger holsters that I've run into that were serialized to the pistol, have been Police issue, or insome cases, military with the same (as grip strap marking on pistol) unit ID coding. Here it makes a lot of sense to keep these with the gun that they are matched to and adds considerably to the value of the package. In most cases, the military drew their holster (separately from the pistol shipments) from clothing depots and issued them at random, so that just about any combination is possible. As others have mentioned, you can spend a lot of time and money finding that 1935 dated military holster to go with your G date luger, so its really a matter of your personal priorities and luck finding what's appropriate. Tom

Steve · 03-01-2001, 09:20 PM

As to rigs, it seems to me that trying to find a matching dated rig when it comes to K or G date Lugers would be the most difficult. There are far more 1934 manufactured holsters around than 1935 even though production of G date

Lugers was much higher than K dates. I have a fairly nice K

date holster but no K date Luger; same situation with my G date Luger, no G date holster. I would consider it to be proper though to find a G date with a K date holster.(My G

date came with a 1940 mfg marked holster.)Steve

02-28-2001, 11:17 AM	#1
Ted User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SC Posts: 726 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Luger Rigs I have noticed some people like to have a matching holster, mag type and take down tool. Does anyone here feel that way or do you just collect Lugers. I am starting to lean myself towards wanting the completed rig! I do have some catching up to do! Ted

02-28-2001, 11:25 AM	#2
bob User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PA Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Luger Rigs Ted, I try to have a complete set with all my weapons in my collection, from 1911s, 1917s, C-96s, PPs, PPks, P-38s and of course LUGERS. Would you not like to have a Naval or Artillery with all the goodies????

02-28-2001, 11:30 AM	#3
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	To each his (or her) own !! I really believe that each of us has their own preferences. Some collect Lugers, some P38's, some PPK's, etc. If you want to collect rigs, then so be it. I have several, but my feeling is that I would rather spend the bucks on a pistol. Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth !!

02-28-2001, 12:26 PM	#4
Marvin Cook Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Luger Rigs I have a complete rig with all my Lugers except one. Most them are rigs which I have assembled with the correct tool and the proper mismatched magazine. I do have several that have the complete original rig because I got them from the veteran. I do collect pistols first and if I can get a complete rig I do so, but the pistol is the forst priority. My collection consists of all handguns used by the Third Reich forces with the Luger and P.38 be the most prevalent. marvin

02-28-2001, 05:57 PM	#5
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Re: Luger Rigs I have assembled complete rigs (with correct but unmatched extra mag)for some of my better grade Lugers, but don't try to do it with all of them.

02-28-2001, 06:08 PM	#6
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Re: Luger Rigs The only rigs I have are those that I had to get when I bought a Luger I wanted. Except the 1917 Arty, which I am still trying to complete. And the 1917 Navy, which I haven't started.

02-28-2001, 07:17 PM	#7
Marvin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upstate S.C. Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Luger Rigs Frank, Good Luck on finding a nice holster rig for your Artillery. I have a 1917 artillery in approx. 95-96% condition and it came in an unmarked Art. holster with the cleaning rod. I bought this from a dealer whom I know and he said he got the rig from a veteran from WWII. i don't know how it was carried, but there are no shoulder straps and it did not come with the rest of the harness. I did add a shoulder stock to it about 1 year ago. I sure wish I knew some history behind it. marvin

02-28-2001, 07:54 PM	#8
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Re: Luger Rigs Marvin, I got the gun, I got the holster, I got the stock. I got a repro boot, I got a repro boot strap, I got a commercial magazine pouch. I need original boot, boot strap, magazine pouch and shoulder straps. I accept your good lucks. Man they are hard to find !!!!

03-01-2001, 01:07 AM	#9
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Luger Rigs Normally I would say "doesn't everyone try to acquire the full rig to match their pistol?" but with all the emotions surrounding this practice (and all the tiptoeing around it) I guess I will have to just say "I do, and I am". I have always tried to have a correct mag and rig for any military pistols that I have. A western tooled cowboy holster with a cartridge loop belt for a 1908 commercial just wouldn't seem right (well, maybe if it had the leather tie down straps). If I had 1600+ Lugers then it would be a different story.

03-01-2001, 07:53 AM	#10
Marvin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upstate S.C. Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Luger Rigs Speaking of rigs. The way holsters were shipped from the factory to the distribution depots, and finally to the local armory, a Luger could have a holster one year before or one year after the pistol date and still be correct. As holsters were put into inventory, the stamps did not mean anything to anyone as they were issued. The Germans used the last in, first out system of distribution. If a large depot had a big quantity of holsters, the ones put in first may not get shipped to the local areas for a while. I also like to get the same year holster with the pistol, but the one year before or after also works. In addition, a rig may be 100% correct for the early Lugers (1935, 1936, etc.) because I am sure the holsters would be replaced in a few years if they were damaged and they would be the later years production. So, a 1936 Luger would be correct if it had a 1942 holster. What are some other thoughts? Marvin

03-01-2001, 09:34 AM	#11
tom heller Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Luger Rigs Ted et al, The only Luger holsters that I've run into that were serialized to the pistol, have been Police issue, or insome cases, military with the same (as grip strap marking on pistol) unit ID coding. Here it makes a lot of sense to keep these with the gun that they are matched to and adds considerably to the value of the package. In most cases, the military drew their holster (separately from the pistol shipments) from clothing depots and issued them at random, so that just about any combination is possible. As others have mentioned, you can spend a lot of time and money finding that 1935 dated military holster to go with your G date luger, so its really a matter of your personal priorities and luck finding what's appropriate. Tom

03-01-2001, 09:20 PM	#12
Steve User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 200 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Luger Rigs As to rigs, it seems to me that trying to find a matching dated rig when it comes to K or G date Lugers would be the most difficult. There are far more 1934 manufactured holsters around than 1935 even though production of G date Lugers was much higher than K dates. I have a fairly nice K date holster but no K date Luger; same situation with my G date Luger, no G date holster. I would consider it to be proper though to find a G date with a K date holster.(My G date came with a 1940 mfg marked holster.)Steve