Mitchell's Mauser Lugers

WehrmachtP08 · 12-22-2008, 05:23 PM

Why are the P08 Lugers on Mitchell's Mauser website so expensive ($4500). I have been watching the prices of Lugers recently, as I am looking at purchasing a Mauser P08, probably an S/42, and have noticed that the collector Lugers are usually around $3000 for a very nice firearm. What makes the Mitchell's Mauser Lugers different that they are so expensive?

Thanks

WehrmachtP08

John Sabato · 12-22-2008, 05:36 PM

Welcome to the Lugerforum. These guns are CREATED for the new collector who doesn't know anything about collecting, so they don't know they are overpaying to own a "Luger"....They are all shooter class guns, not collectibles. They have all been refinished. Sometimes they add markings and decorations that further detract from their authenticity... only if you have money to burn, should you purchase one of these rehab Lugers...

They do fit them into nice presentation cases, and make them LOOK like they are collectibles, but I wouldn't own one because the refinish brings their value DOWN, not up.

jonnyc · 12-22-2008, 06:04 PM

They do the same with Mauser rifles, bogus markings and finishes. Then they call them rare original pieces! I'm not a lawyer, but that sure sounds like FRAUD to me.

WehrmachtP08 · 12-22-2008, 06:20 PM

Alright. I had suspected that, but wasn't quite sure since they did not state that on their website. I am really interested in purchasing a nice "collector" Luger as well as a "shooter" within the next year. I currently own a DWM Commercial Luger in nice condition, all origional. I'll be posting pictures of it as well as the history behind it. It has been in my family since WWI. It has a very interesting history

383 magnum · 12-25-2008, 11:01 AM

Absolutely do not buy one of the Mitchell's Mausers Lugers. That company sells nothing but "pimped out" shooters for prices that are higher than originals.

Edward Tinker · 12-25-2008, 01:30 PM

There are nice collectable lugers for less than $1500 right here on the forum; I feel sorry for folks who got suckered into buying these "collectable" lugers; as they are not.

I think, many, many people are seduced by a pretty gun, instead of one that is should be, a 70-100 year old piece of history...

Ed

DaveinTN · 12-28-2008, 11:04 PM

WehrmachtP08,

I just posted this photo in another topic, but thought it would be enjoyed here as well.

Like you, I almost got suckered into buying a Mitchel "make over," but luckily, took heed of the members on this forum and saved my money.

Now I have two pistols, one a shooter and the other a low end collector (both purchased from members of this forum).

If you really want to flush your money down the toilet, take my advice and buy one of these! Just let me know when you're going to go on TV with the Antiques Road Show.... I need a good laugh....

Happy collecting,

Dave in TN.

azlaw · 12-30-2008, 01:15 PM

Oh, now that is just gorgeous! It can go in the safe right next to the gold-plated Desert Eagle "fif-tay".

H

Vlim · 12-30-2008, 06:46 PM

And not even a bleedin' stock with that one....

It's like putting fresh make-up on the Mona Lisa and calling it added value.

alvin · 12-30-2008, 07:08 PM

The real problem is, IMHO, for looking, it does not have much to look at, for shooting, I doubt it shoots well, for price, well, there are tons of collectors accumulating CAI guns, at least those are reasonably priced.... this one.... where is its core value?

Sieger · 12-30-2008, 08:01 PM

Hi:

I doubt if any serious collector would buy a Luger from them.

Sieger

Alx · 01-25-2009, 01:31 PM

"Edition Limit - Only 25"
"Origin: Germany, 1914-1918"

These two bits of descriptive info when placed together (in the ad shown above for the "Diamond Eagle") are so misleading that they should qualify for fraud.

12-22-2008, 05:23 PM	#1
WehrmachtP08 User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Clifton, VA; West Point, NY Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Mitchell's Mauser Lugers Why are the P08 Lugers on Mitchell's Mauser website so expensive ($4500). I have been watching the prices of Lugers recently, as I am looking at purchasing a Mauser P08, probably an S/42, and have noticed that the collector Lugers are usually around $3000 for a very nice firearm. What makes the Mitchell's Mauser Lugers different that they are so expensive? Thanks WehrmachtP08

12-22-2008, 05:36 PM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Welcome to the Lugerforum. These guns are CREATED for the new collector who doesn't know anything about collecting, so they don't know they are overpaying to own a "Luger"....They are all shooter class guns, not collectibles. They have all been refinished. Sometimes they add markings and decorations that further detract from their authenticity... only if you have money to burn, should you purchase one of these rehab Lugers... They do fit them into nice presentation cases, and make them LOOK like they are collectibles, but I wouldn't own one because the refinish brings their value DOWN, not up. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

12-25-2008, 01:30 PM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	There are nice collectable lugers for less than $1500 right here on the forum; I feel sorry for folks who got suckered into buying these "collectable" lugers; as they are not. I think, many, many people are seduced by a *pretty* gun, instead of one that is should be, a 70-100 year old piece of history... Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-28-2008, 11:04 PM	#7
DaveinTN User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 186 Thanks: 3 Thanked 15 Times in 11 Posts	WehrmachtP08, I just posted this photo in another topic, but thought it would be enjoyed here as well. Like you, I almost got suckered into buying a Mitchel "make over," but luckily, took heed of the members on this forum and saved my money. Now I have two pistols, one a shooter and the other a low end collector (both purchased from members of this forum). If you really want to flush your money down the toilet, take my advice and buy one of these! Just let me know when you're going to go on TV with the Antiques Road Show.... I need a good laugh.... Happy collecting, Dave in TN. Attached Images

12-22-2008, 06:04 PM	#3
jonnyc User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 425 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 34 Posts	They do the same with Mauser rifles, bogus markings and finishes. Then they call them rare original pieces! I'm not a lawyer, but that sure sounds like FRAUD to me.

12-22-2008, 06:20 PM	#4
WehrmachtP08 User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Clifton, VA; West Point, NY Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Alright. I had suspected that, but wasn't quite sure since they did not state that on their website. I am really interested in purchasing a nice "collector" Luger as well as a "shooter" within the next year. I currently own a DWM Commercial Luger in nice condition, all origional. I'll be posting pictures of it as well as the history behind it. It has been in my family since WWI. It has a very interesting history

12-25-2008, 11:01 AM	#5
383 magnum User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 120 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Absolutely do not buy one of the Mitchell's Mausers Lugers. That company sells nothing but "pimped out" shooters for prices that are higher than originals.

12-30-2008, 01:15 PM	#8
azlaw User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 204 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Oh, now that is just gorgeous! It can go in the safe right next to the gold-plated Desert Eagle "fif-tay". H

12-30-2008, 06:46 PM	#9
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,989 Times in 1,205 Posts	And not even a bleedin' stock with that one.... It's like putting fresh make-up on the Mona Lisa and calling it added value.

12-30-2008, 07:08 PM	#10
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	The real problem is, IMHO, for looking, it does not have much to look at, for shooting, I doubt it shoots well, for price, well, there are tons of collectors accumulating CAI guns, at least those are reasonably priced.... this one.... where is its core value?

12-30-2008, 08:01 PM	#11
Sieger User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,575 Thanks: 2,124 Thanked 400 Times in 249 Posts	Hi: I doubt if any serious collector would buy a Luger from them. Sieger

01-25-2009, 01:31 PM	#12
Alx User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nashville, Tennessee area Posts: 263 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	"Edition Limit - Only 25" "Origin: Germany, 1914-1918" These two bits of descriptive info when placed together (in the ad shown above for the "Diamond Eagle") are so misleading that they should qualify for fraud.