Spectacular Luger Cover

PhilOhio · 08-12-2009, 11:32 AM

Here's a piece of fine Luger collector publicity which cannot go unreported and uncomplimented. It's the cover of our current Ohio Gun Collectors Association (OGCA) Newsletter, just received yesterday; transparent 7.65mm Swiss Luger on which, sadly, I cannot quite read the cartridge headstamps

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It leads to an equally professional and colorful two-page summary of the Luger story by John Eckert. John credits a number of people who helped with the article, adding, "Special thanks to Ron Wood whose help made this cover possible"

Outstanding job indeed, Ron. This may be one of the prettiest OGCA Newsletter covers I've seen, which is saying a lot. The newsletter is coffee table quality, every issue. It is one of the things you just don't throw away. And OGCA is, if I am not mistaken, the largest and most reputable collector group in the world.

Anybody within driving range should be a member. Top gun people from all over the country attend each show, so it's a great place to exchange thoughts (and guns) with serious collectors. I know a number of you also belong. Takes two members to sign your application, and we have no shortage of potential signers from this board.

Ron Wood · 08-12-2009, 01:10 PM

I was very grateful to John for his acknowledgement, but the real credit needs to go to the outstanding original artwork by David Kimble. David is a premier illustrator and most of you will be familiar with his sectional views of exotic high performance autos featured in “Road and Track” and other car enthusiast publications. The Luger illustration was featured on the cover of the July 1989 issue of “Guns & Ammo”. David not only created the cover art, he also wrote an excellent 8-page article “Old Model Lugers – The Genesis of a Legend” that showcased some of the finest early Lugers.

I have kept in contact with David over the years, so when John explained his desire to use that illustration for the cover of the handout brochure of his fabulous stocked Luger display (sponsored by the Ohio Gun Collectors Association) at the last NRA Convention in Phoenix , I contacted David and received his gracious and willing approval for its use.

I have a beautiful 11”X14” signed original print of that illustration that David presented to me. But I couldn’t quite come up with an efficient method to reduce it to useable size for the brochure. So I ended up making a copy of the magazine cover and re-touching out all the text on the cover. It took a couple of hours of squinting at my computer screen but John was happy with the result and I managed not to deface David’s great artwork.

By the way, the headstamp is DWM KK 471

lugerholsterrepair · 08-12-2009, 03:43 PM

Fabulous Ron! Good work...Thanks for posting it Phil...Are copies for sale?

Jerry Burney

John Sabato · 08-13-2009, 11:18 AM

"Are copies for sale?"

Ron, that sounds like a good fundraiser idea to me!

Frameable color prints with the proceeds going to the Lugerforum maintenance fund ... You could sell a bunch of them at $25.00 each plus shipping ...but then what do I know?

PhilOhio · 08-13-2009, 11:47 AM

Jerry,

I don't believe the newsletter is normally sold, but since thousands are printed and it was sent out only days ago, I would guess they may have extra copies. Contact info for the association is:

OGCA P.O. Box 670406
Sagamore Hills, OH 44067-0406
Laura Knotts, Business Mgr.
PH: (330) 467-5733
Fax: (330) 467-5793
E-mail: [email protected]
Web: www.ogca.com

Ron,

John had his stocked Luger display at an OGCA meet earlier this year, I believe. I had to just stop and stare for awhile. There were things I never knew existed. That's quite a lifetime accomplishment.

Not yet having assimilated all the names of who is who in Lugerland, I did not realize that the man with the stock display was the man who wrote the newsletter article.

Well, O.K., I guess I'd better scan and post that also, in case anybody wants to print it out. It's a keeper.

Ron Wood · 08-13-2009, 12:29 PM

John,
The frameable color prints with proceeds going to the Lugerforum sounds like an attractive idea, but it isn't something that should be pursued. I obtained David Kimble's permission to use his artwork on John Eckert's brochure. The use of the same illustration by OGCA for their newsletter is a bit of a stretch of that permission. Any additional use of Kimble's copyrighted illustration needs to again obtain his permission and he should rightfully receive some compensation from any proceeds of its sale. A one-time permission as a favor does not transfer into open ended commercial use.

If there is sufficient interest in copies of this artwork, I could approach David Kimble to see if he would be interested in participating.

John Sabato · 08-13-2009, 12:33 PM

Bummer... but I agree with you completely...

...guess I just got a little excited about owning one

Ron Wood · 08-13-2009, 12:35 PM

John,
I think you were posting while I added the afterthought of working with David Kimble. As I said, if there is sufficient interest, it might be something that could be done.

John Sabato · 08-13-2009, 12:40 PM

Well, I believe that this discussion has run it up the flagpole... let's see what kind of interest it generates for frameable prints and we will know whether or not to pursue it. It could be a limited edition signed print, eh?

How many members would be interested in buying one of these frameable prints to hang in their gun room? Mind you, this is not a solicitation for orders, only an inquiry as to member interest.

Let's hear from you all who would want one...(Note: "you all" is a southern USA vernacular expression believed to mean "everyone"

)

lugerholsterrepair · 08-13-2009, 01:34 PM

If you guys can put something together I'm in! Especially if some portion goes to the Forum.

Jerry Burney

cma22inc · 08-13-2009, 02:43 PM

I would be in as well and long as the size was not huge. I have limited space.
Could we maybe offer to donate the artist's portion to a charity of his choice in his name?

MFC · 08-13-2009, 06:22 PM

Count me in.

bobcam1 · 08-13-2009, 10:49 PM

I'm in for two prints, if the idea comes to life....

RWS · 08-14-2009, 04:51 AM

It would be great to get 4 or 5 prints for xtmas presents.

Count me in too.

abukafura · 08-15-2009, 04:37 PM

I don't want to be left out....I am also in. Thanks

dz · 08-17-2009, 02:50 PM

Jerry If you still want a copy let me know. You can have mine. David Z. [email protected]

lugerholsterrepair · 08-17-2009, 03:07 PM

David, I want to thank you for your generous offer..I couldn't take your only copy. Yer a Prince but that would leave you without one!

Jerry

Went Blakely · 08-24-2009, 01:24 PM

Nicely done gentleman, great work!

lugerholsterrepair · 08-24-2009, 01:56 PM

David Zimmerman was kind enough to send me his original copy of the Ohio Gun Collectors magazine and for that I thank him very much!

It is truely a spectacular Artist's rendering..very detailed and colorful. A lot of work went into this.

Thanks to all for this..whatever comes of it.

Jerry Burney

SleazyRider · 09-11-2009, 08:50 PM

Hey, this might be the one and only Luger accessory I can afford! Count me in!

08-12-2009, 11:32 AM	#1
PhilOhio User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 145 Thanks: 5 Thanked 17 Times in 14 Posts	Spectacular Luger Cover Here's a piece of fine Luger collector publicity which cannot go unreported and uncomplimented. It's the cover of our current Ohio Gun Collectors Association (OGCA) Newsletter, just received yesterday; transparent 7.65mm Swiss Luger on which, sadly, I cannot quite read the cartridge headstamps . It leads to an equally professional and colorful two-page summary of the Luger story by John Eckert. John credits a number of people who helped with the article, adding, "Special thanks to Ron Wood whose help made this cover possible" Outstanding job indeed, Ron. This may be one of the prettiest OGCA Newsletter covers I've seen, which is saying a lot. The newsletter is coffee table quality, every issue. It is one of the things you just don't throw away. And OGCA is, if I am not mistaken, the largest and most reputable collector group in the world. Anybody within driving range should be a member. Top gun people from all over the country attend each show, so it's a great place to exchange thoughts (and guns) with serious collectors. I know a number of you also belong. Takes two members to sign your application, and we have no shortage of potential signers from this board.

08-12-2009, 01:10 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	I was very grateful to John for his acknowledgement, but the real credit needs to go to the outstanding original artwork by David Kimble. David is a premier illustrator and most of you will be familiar with his sectional views of exotic high performance autos featured in “Road and Track” and other car enthusiast publications. The Luger illustration was featured on the cover of the July 1989 issue of “Guns & Ammo”. David not only created the cover art, he also wrote an excellent 8-page article “Old Model Lugers – The Genesis of a Legend” that showcased some of the finest early Lugers. I have kept in contact with David over the years, so when John explained his desire to use that illustration for the cover of the handout brochure of his fabulous stocked Luger display (sponsored by the Ohio Gun Collectors Association) at the last NRA Convention in Phoenix , I contacted David and received his gracious and willing approval for its use. I have a beautiful 11”X14” signed original print of that illustration that David presented to me. But I couldn’t quite come up with an efficient method to reduce it to useable size for the brochure. So I ended up making a copy of the magazine cover and re-touching out all the text on the cover. It took a couple of hours of squinting at my computer screen but John was happy with the result and I managed not to deface David’s great artwork. By the way, the headstamp is DWM KK 471 __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction Last edited by Ron Wood; 08-13-2009 at 12:43 AM.

08-12-2009, 03:43 PM	#3
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Fabulous Ron! Good work...Thanks for posting it Phil...Are copies for sale? Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-13-2009, 11:18 AM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	"Are copies for sale?" Ron, that sounds like a good fundraiser idea to me! Frameable color prints with the proceeds going to the Lugerforum maintenance fund ... You could sell a bunch of them at $25.00 each plus shipping ...but then what do I know? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-13-2009, 12:29 PM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	John, The frameable color prints with proceeds going to the Lugerforum sounds like an attractive idea, but it isn't something that should be pursued. I obtained David Kimble's permission to use his artwork on John Eckert's brochure. The use of the same illustration by OGCA for their newsletter is a bit of a stretch of that permission. Any additional use of Kimble's copyrighted illustration needs to again obtain his permission and he should rightfully receive some compensation from any proceeds of its sale. A one-time permission as a favor does not transfer into open ended commercial use. If there is sufficient interest in copies of this artwork, I could approach David Kimble to see if he would be interested in participating. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

08-13-2009, 11:47 AM	#5
PhilOhio User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 145 Thanks: 5 Thanked 17 Times in 14 Posts	Jerry, I don't believe the newsletter is normally sold, but since thousands are printed and it was sent out only days ago, I would guess they may have extra copies. Contact info for the association is: OGCA P.O. Box 670406 Sagamore Hills, OH 44067-0406 Laura Knotts, Business Mgr. PH: (330) 467-5733 Fax: (330) 467-5793 E-mail: [email protected] Web: www.ogca.com Ron, John had his stocked Luger display at an OGCA meet earlier this year, I believe. I had to just stop and stare for awhile. There were things I never knew existed. That's quite a lifetime accomplishment. Not yet having assimilated all the names of who is who in Lugerland, I did not realize that the man with the stock display was the man who wrote the newsletter article. Well, O.K., I guess I'd better scan and post that also, in case anybody wants to print it out. It's a keeper.

08-13-2009, 12:33 PM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Bummer... but I agree with you completely... ...guess I just got a little excited about owning one __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-13-2009, 12:35 PM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	John, I think you were posting while I added the afterthought of working with David Kimble. As I said, if there is sufficient interest, it might be something that could be done. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

08-13-2009, 12:40 PM	#9
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Well, I believe that this discussion has run it up the flagpole... let's see what kind of interest it generates for frameable prints and we will know whether or not to pursue it. It could be a limited edition signed print, eh? How many members would be interested in buying one of these frameable prints to hang in their gun room? Mind you, this is not a solicitation for orders, only an inquiry as to member interest. Let's hear from you all who would want one...(Note: "you all" is a southern USA vernacular expression believed to mean "everyone" ) __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-13-2009, 01:34 PM	#10
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	If you guys can put something together I'm in! Especially if some portion goes to the Forum. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-13-2009, 02:43 PM	#11
cma22inc User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tampa Bay FL Posts: 93 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	I would be in as well and long as the size was not huge. I have limited space. Could we maybe offer to donate the artist's portion to a charity of his choice in his name? __________________ Matt A. Tampa, FL (C&R) Collector

08-13-2009, 06:22 PM	#12
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Count me in. __________________ Mike C.

08-13-2009, 10:49 PM	#13
bobcam1 User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I'm in for two prints, if the idea comes to life....

08-14-2009, 04:51 AM	#14
RWS User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Europe Posts: 34 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	It would be great to get 4 or 5 prints for xtmas presents. Count me in too.

08-15-2009, 04:37 PM	#15
abukafura Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northeast Wisconsin, near Greeen Bay Posts: 327 Thanks: 1,314 Thanked 89 Times in 57 Posts	I don't want to be left out....I am also in. Thanks

08-17-2009, 02:50 PM	#16
dz Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 259 Thanks: 1 Thanked 55 Times in 39 Posts	Jerry If you still want a copy let me know. You can have mine. David Z. [email protected]

08-17-2009, 03:07 PM	#17
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	David, I want to thank you for your generous offer..I couldn't take your only copy. Yer a Prince but that would leave you without one! Jerry __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-24-2009, 01:24 PM	#18
Went Blakely User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 231 Thanks: 4 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts	Nicely done gentleman, great work! __________________ Went Blakely

08-24-2009, 01:56 PM	#19
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	David Zimmerman was kind enough to send me his original copy of the Ohio Gun Collectors magazine and for that I thank him very much! It is truely a spectacular Artist's rendering..very detailed and colorful. A lot of work went into this. Thanks to all for this..whatever comes of it. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

09-11-2009, 08:50 PM	#20
SleazyRider User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 20 Thanks: 25 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hey, this might be the one and only Luger accessory I can afford! Count me in!