Here's something you don't see every day...

sheepherder · 10-02-2009, 07:58 AM

Browsing through my "favorite seller's" other offerings (while waiting for my latest purchase to ship!

) and saw this...

Maybe it is common...I've just never seen this date...

alvin · 10-02-2009, 08:07 AM

Aftermarket barrel? Don't know... guesstimation, it looks smaller than DWM.

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Edit: have a picture showing the other side?

Ice · 10-02-2009, 09:18 AM

A 1911 dated Luger would be a real prize. I have only seen one in person. It had a 1911 upper and a mismatched lower; price was $500.00. Sadly I passed on it to buy a nice matching 1914 model which took all I was carrying.

Charlie

alvin · 10-02-2009, 09:34 AM

That's not a bad choice IMO. 1911 dated makes sense only when you have 1912, 1913, 1914, 1915.... so on and so forth, just missing a 1911, then paying premium to fill that hole (because it's rare).

If that's not the situation, 1911 and 1914 are the same. Missing both? and 1914 is nice & all matching... go to 1914.

John Sabato · 10-02-2009, 11:49 AM

Yeah 1911 is not a very common date on a Luger. The mark on that barrel is very interesting. It looks like a modern replacement barrel, but I do not recognize the mark. Does anyone know this marking?

Ron Smith · 10-02-2009, 11:55 AM

It's a Finnish rework. The barrel is made by Tikka, typical of Finnish army reworks. Most Tikka barrels are 5", although "4 barrels do turn up now and then.

If it's a 1911 DWM, they turn up occaisionally. If it's an 1911 Erfurt, it's a first year production and much harder to find. Being a "Finn" it's value is deminished to around $1000-$1200 on average.

cma22inc · 10-02-2009, 12:29 PM

The Fin Tikka barrels are good quality, I have one in 5" and it is very good.

Also have one on a 1944 91/30 Mosin also very good.

sheepherder · 10-02-2009, 06:20 PM

Yup; Finnish Luger...

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=140922975

If it had the longer Finnish Tikka barrel, and the stock lug, I might be tempted...

Up for auction is a Finnish P-08 Luger chambered in 9mm. This gun was posessed by Finland post World War I. The "SA" mark was stamped in 1941. This gun was originally a 30 caliber Luger but then was given a Tikka Barrel. The gun contains a unique date of 1911 as seen in the pictures.

alvin · 10-02-2009, 07:52 PM

Finnish loves making "mountain village edition" of guns

jussi16 · 10-03-2009, 11:23 AM

Yes, it is a "Tikkakoski" -barrel, not Tikka, please

. I have one pistol with the 4 inch barrel.

Ron Wood · 10-03-2009, 12:16 PM

Juha,
Most of us are just too lazy to write out "Tikkakoski", so in typical American fashion we just shorten it to Tikka.

10-02-2009, 07:58 AM	#1
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,183 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	Here's something you don't see every day... Browsing through my "favorite seller's" other offerings (while waiting for my latest purchase to ship! ) and saw this... Maybe it is common...I've just never seen this date... Attached Thumbnails

10-02-2009, 11:49 AM	#5
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Yeah 1911 is not a very common date on a Luger. The mark on that barrel is very interesting. It looks like a modern replacement barrel, but I do not recognize the mark. Does anyone know this marking? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-02-2009, 11:55 AM	#6
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	It's a Finnish rework. The barrel is made by Tikka, typical of Finnish army reworks. Most Tikka barrels are 5", although "4 barrels do turn up now and then. If it's a 1911 DWM, they turn up occaisionally. If it's an 1911 Erfurt, it's a first year production and much harder to find. Being a "Finn" it's value is deminished to around $1000-$1200 on average. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

10-02-2009, 12:29 PM	#7
cma22inc User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tampa Bay FL Posts: 93 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	The Fin Tikka barrels are good quality, I have one in 5" and it is very good. Also have one on a 1944 91/30 Mosin also very good. __________________ Matt A. Tampa, FL (C&R) Collector

10-02-2009, 06:20 PM	#8
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,183 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	Yup; Finnish Luger... http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=140922975 If it had the longer Finnish Tikka barrel, and the stock lug, I might be tempted... Up for auction is a Finnish P-08 Luger chambered in 9mm. This gun was posessed by Finland post World War I. The "SA" mark was stamped in 1941. This gun was originally a 30 caliber Luger but then was given a Tikka Barrel. The gun contains a unique date of 1911 as seen in the pictures. Attached Thumbnails

10-02-2009, 08:07 AM	#2
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Aftermarket barrel? Don't know... guesstimation, it looks smaller than DWM. ==== Edit: have a picture showing the other side?

10-02-2009, 09:18 AM	#3
Ice User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 552 Thanks: 13 Thanked 69 Times in 57 Posts	A 1911 dated Luger would be a real prize. I have only seen one in person. It had a 1911 upper and a mismatched lower; price was $500.00. Sadly I passed on it to buy a nice matching 1914 model which took all I was carrying. Charlie

10-02-2009, 09:34 AM	#4
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	That's not a bad choice IMO. 1911 dated makes sense only when you have 1912, 1913, 1914, 1915.... so on and so forth, just missing a 1911, then paying premium to fill that hole (because it's rare). If that's not the situation, 1911 and 1914 are the same. Missing both? and 1914 is nice & all matching... go to 1914.

10-02-2009, 07:52 PM	#9
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Finnish loves making "mountain village edition" of guns

10-03-2009, 11:23 AM	#10
jussi16 User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 250 Thanks: 77 Thanked 52 Times in 31 Posts	Yes, it is a "Tikkakoski" -barrel, not Tikka, please . I have one pistol with the 4 inch barrel.

10-03-2009, 12:16 PM	#11
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	Juha, Most of us are just too lazy to write out "Tikkakoski", so in typical American fashion we just shorten it to Tikka. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction