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BILL · 03-09-2001, 12:54 AM

After all this time (with this wonderful updated forum format) I finally read all the instructions on creating a profile. I have been using all caps for my name (because there were so many people with the name Bill posting here. I now see that, once registered, no one can post with your name except the registered user. So, BILL is now Bill. Does anyone know what holster types were being made for the Luger in between WWI and WWII? Not that they would have been issued with them, but all the Luger holster manufacturers must have had something to do during these times. Bill

Marvin · 03-09-2001, 08:01 AM

Bill,

The holsters used during the Weimar era were new manufacture, reworked WWI Artillery holsters, some reworked revolver holster, and I feel, anything the Germans could get their hands on. In addition, there were a lot of commercial holsters on the market that were identical to the military holsters except there were no military stamps or "P.08" stamps on the back. Some of these commercial holsters had a makers stamp and some didn't. The Weimar holsters are not rare, but sometimes difficult to identify.

Marvin

03-09-2001, 09:32 AM

Bill, I agree with Marvins comments in that do to Germany's financial straights after WW1 I doubt that there were any new contracts for military PO8 holsters. Many of the excess WW1 surplus ones were reworked for the commerical market and the only new production dated ones that I've seen from the late 20s or early 30s were Police marked.

Kyrie · 03-09-2001, 09:05 PM

Hi Bill,

I didn't even know what a "profile" was until I saw your post - just goes to show how observant I am! I've followed your lead, and done up a bit of a profile and even included a photo. I confess the photo is not what anyone would call recent [chuckle] but it's still me

Danged if I knew what to put in a profile....

Best regards,

Kyrie

Patrick · 03-10-2001, 02:07 PM

Prior to 21/09/1915, Prussian Army leather was stored in a natural tan colour and was blackened as the need arose. Some units used natural tan, others black. From 1915 on, leather items were to be stored in natural tan but blackened on issue. Officers mainly preferred tan holsters. P 08 holsters can be various shades of tan, boot-blackened or black. There are three basic types of holsters for the Luger P 08. The first were re-worked, dark tan M/79 and M/83 Reichsrevolver holsters. The second type was specifically made for the P 08. The magazine pouch was sewn onto the side of the holster; the lid was attached to the back with a leather strip which acted as a hinge; the belt loops were not slanted. Production of the third type of P 08 holster started in 1928. The belt loops are slanted, the lid is stitched directly to the back; the back of the holster protrudes to form the back of the magazine pouch and there is a horizontal line of stitching halfway down the back. These holsters were cheaper to make but some workshops made hybrid holsters that were a mixture of both the first and the second type. There was a discussion on the Board a while back resulting from a CMR replica holster that was of the second type which was not considered to be genuine. Patrick

Dok · 03-12-2001, 11:51 AM

and now how about a photo for the Rogues Gallery? Or do we have to use "the cat" on you too???!!!

03-09-2001, 12:54 AM	#1
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Profile benefit After all this time (with this wonderful updated forum format) I finally read all the instructions on creating a profile. I have been using all caps for my name (because there were so many people with the name Bill posting here. I now see that, once registered, no one can post with your name except the registered user. So, BILL is now Bill. Does anyone know what holster types were being made for the Luger in between WWI and WWII? Not that they would have been issued with them, but all the Luger holster manufacturers must have had something to do during these times. Bill

03-09-2001, 08:01 AM	#2
Marvin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upstate S.C. Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Profile benefit Bill, The holsters used during the Weimar era were new manufacture, reworked WWI Artillery holsters, some reworked revolver holster, and I feel, anything the Germans could get their hands on. In addition, there were a lot of commercial holsters on the market that were identical to the military holsters except there were no military stamps or "P.08" stamps on the back. Some of these commercial holsters had a makers stamp and some didn't. The Weimar holsters are not rare, but sometimes difficult to identify. Marvin

03-09-2001, 09:32 AM	#3
tom heller Guest Posts: n/a	Re:Weimar holsters Bill, I agree with Marvins comments in that do to Germany's financial straights after WW1 I doubt that there were any new contracts for military PO8 holsters. Many of the excess WW1 surplus ones were reworked for the commerical market and the only new production dated ones that I've seen from the late 20s or early 30s were Police marked.

03-09-2001, 09:05 PM	#4
Kyrie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 757 Thanks: 0 Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts	Re: Profile benefit Hi Bill, I didn't even know what a "profile" was until I saw your post - just goes to show how observant I am! I've followed your lead, and done up a bit of a profile and even included a photo. I confess the photo is not what anyone would call recent [chuckle] but it's still me Danged if I knew what to put in a profile.... Best regards, Kyrie

03-10-2001, 02:07 PM	#5
Patrick User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 241 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	P 08 Holsters Prior to 21/09/1915, Prussian Army leather was stored in a natural tan colour and was blackened as the need arose. Some units used natural tan, others black. From 1915 on, leather items were to be stored in natural tan but blackened on issue. Officers mainly preferred tan holsters. P 08 holsters can be various shades of tan, boot-blackened or black. There are three basic types of holsters for the Luger P 08. The first were re-worked, dark tan M/79 and M/83 Reichsrevolver holsters. The second type was specifically made for the P 08. The magazine pouch was sewn onto the side of the holster; the lid was attached to the back with a leather strip which acted as a hinge; the belt loops were not slanted. Production of the third type of P 08 holster started in 1928. The belt loops are slanted, the lid is stitched directly to the back; the back of the holster protrudes to form the back of the magazine pouch and there is a horizontal line of stitching halfway down the back. These holsters were cheaper to make but some workshops made hybrid holsters that were a mixture of both the first and the second type. There was a discussion on the Board a while back resulting from a CMR replica holster that was of the second type which was not considered to be genuine. Patrick

03-12-2001, 11:51 AM	#6
Dok RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bermuda (Eat Your Heart Out) Posts: 1,626 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Great Profile, Kyrie... and now how about a photo for the Rogues Gallery? Or do we have to use "the cat" on you too???!!!