1940 Krieg one of 100

myky · 06-12-2012, 01:42 PM

To the Krieghoff clan....... Just wanted to share a new find that walked into a show here in Texas from the vets son. A 1940 dated Krieghoff with 2 period original numbered mags, original period Krieghoff holster, and the period proofed tool. I've checked every detail against Gibson's book and everything is period original. Gibson says it's one of 100 late production pieces, serial # 11180 and is in approx. 97% original period blue and 98% original period straw. Gibson doesn't have this serial # listed but his book is years old. I will be happy to send anyone detailed scans if they want. They are still out there !

Myky

Curly1 · 06-12-2012, 02:00 PM

That is outstanding.

myky · 06-12-2012, 02:28 PM

Thanks Gary ! I never thought I'd ever find something like this....... hope springs eternal !

Jan C Still · 06-12-2012, 02:36 PM

Myky
Like Gary said, outstanding find!!!
Jan

myky · 06-12-2012, 02:58 PM

Jan.......... thanks ! Coming from you makes my day !!!

God bless............. Myky

myky · 06-12-2012, 03:07 PM

In addition, but not as big as the Krieghoff, the old man had a K date rig which I will post to it's proper catagory.......

Norme · 06-12-2012, 07:20 PM

Hi Mike, I've posted a similar message on your K date thread, but since that rig is suspect, I'd like to see a better lit photo of the tool in this rig. Everything may be Kosher, but it's wise to make sure. Regards, Norm

Jan C Still · 06-13-2012, 12:36 AM

Mike
It would be interesting to see the details of the two matching magazines. 1940 Krieghoffs usually have the acceptance stamps right side up relative to the serial number. See page 56 and 57 The Krieghoff Parabellum. Please correct me if I am mistaken.
Jan

lugerholsterrepair · 06-13-2012, 11:10 AM

Mike..Can I see the holster a little better? If you have any more photo's handy.

guns3545 · 06-13-2012, 11:51 AM

Very nice. I happen to own SN11181.

John

drbuster · 06-13-2012, 11:48 PM

Very nice. I happen to own SN11191.

Dick Herman · 06-14-2012, 12:01 PM

Myky, This is a most excellent Krieghoff rig. We all dream of finding rigs like this.

My 1940 Kreighoff is number 11247. We are covering a large segment of the estimated 100.

Jan C Still · 06-17-2012, 12:27 AM

"Myky
Like Gary said, outstanding find!!!
Jan"

My statement made above was based on a cursory look at poor quality photographs. This is not an endorsement of this or any other Luger!!! I apologize for not being clear.

Details of the magazines markings would be of interest. See page 56 and 57 of The Krieghoff Parabellum and page 279 Third Reich Lugers.
Jan

Jan C Still · 06-17-2012, 04:24 PM

Myky
Tom Whiteman lists this Luger (sn 11180) as a high quality reblue. His well researched list is on the other Luger Forum at:
http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...Updated-5-5-12

Your comments please.
Jan

Norme · 06-17-2012, 05:31 PM

One can't help feeling sorry for poor Myky. Fifty four years experience but he still fell for that old vet's son's story. There's a lesson there for all of us. Regards, Norm

1933 FORD NUT · 04-15-2015, 04:41 PM

Old thread but new to me as I am new here . I can definitely add to the story of this gun [ 11180 ] as I bought it 7/12/95 . Returned it as it had issues not mentioned and it did not have a matching mag . It came out of the MPLS MN area at that time and was definitely not in the hands of the vets son . Hate to be the bearer of ill tidings but this is not the only one I used to own that mysteriously got better AFTER it left me . As many well know one of Waffenfabrik USA's main branches is in that area .

1933 FORD NUT · 04-15-2015, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Herman

Myky, This is a most excellent Krieghoff rig. We all dream of finding rigs like this.

My 1940 Kreighoff is number 11247. We are covering a large segment of the estimated 100.

Well I may as well get the devil award as I bought this gun [ 11247 ] from Simpson LTD 4/3/95 for $1,295 . Actually it was a kicker in a trade to finish a deal and the person with me wanted it . He wanted it as a representative example and did not want to pay the much higher price of one with a stock lug . Reblued also . I cannot verify it [ he is now deceased ] but he did not keep it long and if I remember correctly the WaA USA branch in MN got it from him . Should be easy to back track ownership on this to verify all this ? SORRY but this is a true story .

drbuster · 04-15-2015, 05:37 PM

Thanks 1933 Ford Nut. I would hope you would add some more of your past experiences for us so we don't become victims. Between the HK's and 1914 type "Navies", WaA MN had almost flooded the market at one time. Watch out for 1898 Borchardt-Luger "prototypes" as well.

George Anderson · 04-15-2015, 05:46 PM

No surprise given the reputation of the original poster.

1933 FORD NUT · 04-15-2015, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drbuster

Thanks 1933 Ford Nut. I would hope you would add some more of your past experiences for us so we don't become victims. Between the HK's and 1914 type "Navies", WaA MN had almost flooded the market at one time. Watch out for 1898 Borchardt-Luger "prototypes" as well.

Had mostly good ones as I don't like crap myself . Had 2 more " bad apple " ones though and one of them is now 98% all original with 3 matching mags !?! Had no matching mags when I owned it and other issues to boot . I talked to Randall Gibson about it as it is listed in his book . He told me Ralph used to own it .That was my first Krieg and after getting the very nice-honest former Bob Breatherton 1940 #10092 it started looking scary so I traded it away as " MESSED WITH " . I reported that one and it drew an immediate rebuttal so I will leave that one lay . I bet the owner paid more than messed with price !! The other one was purchased from Scheels Hardware and sports in Mankato MN 2/2/95 for $1,200 . Early S 1310 all matching except mauser mag . Had the " fat " wood grips and was very slightly pitted in a few areas . I bought it because it was one I didn't have and it was cheap . Problem with it was the person that they bought the collection from [ about 20 lugers ] used naval jelly or something of that sort to clean rust off a couple . Well the S was one of them and it had NO FINISH on it . Same sad story on both of these as they eventually found their way to you know where . I see 1310 is not reported [ thought I did ? ] but it would have cleaned up pretty well as it was straight other than no finish . Anywayz now that I have cemented my popularity here I will go lay by my dish .

06-12-2012, 02:00 PM	#2
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,242 Thanks: 117 Thanked 714 Times in 371 Posts	That is outstanding. __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

06-12-2012, 02:28 PM	#3
myky User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 178 Thanks: 1 Thanked 22 Times in 9 Posts	Thanks Gary ! I never thought I'd ever find something like this....... hope springs eternal ! __________________ myky

06-12-2012, 02:58 PM	#5
myky User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 178 Thanks: 1 Thanked 22 Times in 9 Posts	Jan.......... thanks ! Coming from you makes my day !!! God bless............. Myky __________________ myky

06-12-2012, 03:07 PM	#6
myky User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 178 Thanks: 1 Thanked 22 Times in 9 Posts	1940 Krieghoff In addition, but not as big as the Krieghoff, the old man had a K date rig which I will post to it's proper catagory....... __________________ myky

06-13-2012, 11:10 AM	#9
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06-12-2012, 01:42 PM	#1
myky User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 178 Thanks: 1 Thanked 22 Times in 9 Posts	1940 Krieg one of 100 To the Krieghoff clan....... Just wanted to share a new find that walked into a show here in Texas from the vets son. A 1940 dated Krieghoff with 2 period original numbered mags, original period Krieghoff holster, and the period proofed tool. I've checked every detail against Gibson's book and everything is period original. Gibson says it's one of 100 late production pieces, serial # 11180 and is in approx. 97% original period blue and 98% original period straw. Gibson doesn't have this serial # listed but his book is years old. I will be happy to send anyone detailed scans if they want. They are still out there ! Myky Attached Thumbnails __________________ myky

06-12-2012, 02:36 PM	#4
Jan C Still User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Box 240188, Douglas, Alaska, 99824 Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 52 Times in 32 Posts	Myky Like Gary said, outstanding find!!! Jan

06-12-2012, 07:20 PM	#7
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Mike, I've posted a similar message on your K date thread, but since that rig is suspect, I'd like to see a better lit photo of the tool in this rig. Everything may be Kosher, but it's wise to make sure. Regards, Norm

06-13-2012, 12:36 AM	#8
Jan C Still User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Box 240188, Douglas, Alaska, 99824 Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 52 Times in 32 Posts	Mike It would be interesting to see the details of the two matching magazines. 1940 Krieghoffs usually have the acceptance stamps right side up relative to the serial number. See page 56 and 57 The Krieghoff Parabellum. Please correct me if I am mistaken. Jan

06-13-2012, 11:51 AM	#10
guns3545 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 437 Thanks: 655 Thanked 492 Times in 218 Posts	Very nice. I happen to own SN11181. John

06-13-2012, 11:48 PM	#11
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Very nice. I happen to own SN11191.

06-14-2012, 12:01 PM	#12
Dick Herman User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 302 Thanks: 496 Thanked 354 Times in 138 Posts	Myky, This is a most excellent Krieghoff rig. We all dream of finding rigs like this. My 1940 Kreighoff is number 11247. We are covering a large segment of the estimated 100.

06-17-2012, 12:27 AM	#13
Jan C Still User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Box 240188, Douglas, Alaska, 99824 Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 52 Times in 32 Posts	"Myky Like Gary said, outstanding find!!! Jan" My statement made above was based on a cursory look at poor quality photographs. This is not an endorsement of this or any other Luger!!! I apologize for not being clear. Details of the magazines markings would be of interest. See page 56 and 57 of The Krieghoff Parabellum and page 279 Third Reich Lugers. Jan

06-17-2012, 04:24 PM	#14
Jan C Still User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Box 240188, Douglas, Alaska, 99824 Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 52 Times in 32 Posts	Myky Tom Whiteman lists this Luger (sn 11180) as a high quality reblue. His well researched list is on the other Luger Forum at: http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...Updated-5-5-12 Your comments please. Jan

06-17-2012, 05:31 PM	#15
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	One can't help feeling sorry for poor Myky. Fifty four years experience but he still fell for that old vet's son's story. There's a lesson there for all of us. Regards, Norm

04-15-2015, 04:41 PM	#16
1933 FORD NUT User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: WI Posts: 88 Thanks: 3 Thanked 69 Times in 36 Posts	Old thread but new to me as I am new here . I can definitely add to the story of this gun [ 11180 ] as I bought it 7/12/95 . Returned it as it had issues not mentioned and it did not have a matching mag . It came out of the MPLS MN area at that time and was definitely not in the hands of the vets son . Hate to be the bearer of ill tidings but this is not the only one I used to own that mysteriously got better AFTER it left me . As many well know one of Waffenfabrik USA's main branches is in that area . Last edited by 1933 FORD NUT; 04-15-2015 at 05:02 PM. Reason: add serial # to save confusion

04-15-2015, 05:37 PM	#18
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Thanks 1933 Ford Nut. I would hope you would add some more of your past experiences for us so we don't become victims. Between the HK's and 1914 type "Navies", WaA MN had almost flooded the market at one time. Watch out for 1898 Borchardt-Luger "prototypes" as well.

04-15-2015, 05:46 PM	#19
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,529 Times in 787 Posts	No surprise given the reputation of the original poster.