This one's re-blued, right?

ithacaartist · 12-27-2013, 12:51 PM

I see what appears to be bluing over pits and inside the frame. If this observation is correct, the seller is way off with the price, towards the high side?
http://www.gunsamerica.com//95010376...ZINE.htm?wl=1#

Edward Tinker · 12-27-2013, 01:09 PM

It is Germany stamped, so it could be an old refurb. This guy is always high, but to my untrained Navy eyes, it looks good - perhaps too cleaned up around the ear area of the frame?

How do the 'M"s look to you?

I had a navy, sold it, one of the guns I wish I had kept / that and the fat barrel I sold

Ed

John Sabato · 12-27-2013, 01:30 PM

The "M's" look good to me ... first thing I look for on a Navy... (The late Tom Armstrong taught me that!) The magazine bottom finish and numbering are a little too nice for my taste... They don't look as old as the pistol.

The grips are DWM, but look like they have refreshed checkering to me. The "50" stamps in them look pretty crisp as well.

I agree with Ed, that this gun was probably refurbished a long time ago. A nice job. I have no idea about the market price on Navies... I stopped tracking them since I can't afford one!

cirelaw · 12-27-2013, 07:03 PM

Added after the bluing!!

gunbugs · 12-27-2013, 10:40 PM

I think the biggest clue to an old refurb on this gun is that the internal frame rails and bottoms of the receiver rails are blued, not bright as they would be on an original finish gun. Just my opinion. Price is pretty high. There is a comparable 1916 on GB that is hovering in the 3600 range right now with no reserve. If I hadn't just ponied up on a registered M-2 carbine.....

ithacaartist · 12-28-2013, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gunbugs

... If I hadn't just ponied up on a registered M-2 carbine.....

You lucky Dawg! The M2 carbine is the select-fire one, yes? It would be a near toss-up for me between one of those and a nice Navy! Dang NY State and its Sullivan Act! And Dang my empty wallet!

Ben M. · 12-28-2013, 09:03 PM

since the germany stamp is not showing halo or bright metal, wouldn't this also indicate the gun was refinished after the germany stamp was struck?

gunbugs · 12-29-2013, 01:04 AM

I have a habit of saving my pennies and waiting for a good deal to walk into my hands. The right gun at the right price.

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12-27-2013, 01:09 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	It is Germany stamped, so it could be an old refurb. This guy is always high, but to my untrained Navy eyes, it looks good - perhaps too cleaned up around the ear area of the frame? How do the 'M"s look to you? I had a navy, sold it, one of the guns I wish I had kept / that and the fat barrel I sold Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-27-2013, 01:30 PM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	The "M's" look good to me ... first thing I look for on a Navy... (The late Tom Armstrong taught me that!) The magazine bottom finish and numbering are a little too nice for my taste... They don't look as old as the pistol. The grips are DWM, but look like they have refreshed checkering to me. The "50" stamps in them look pretty crisp as well. I agree with Ed, that this gun was probably refurbished a long time ago. A nice job. I have no idea about the market price on Navies... I stopped tracking them since I can't afford one! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

12-27-2013, 07:03 PM	#4
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	The The Togle Pin Is Correct! Added after the bluing!! Attached Thumbnails

12-27-2013, 10:40 PM	#5
gunbugs Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska. Home of the best moose. Posts: 660 Thanks: 366 Thanked 1,179 Times in 395 Posts	I think the biggest clue to an old refurb on this gun is that the internal frame rails and bottoms of the receiver rails are blued, not bright as they would be on an original finish gun. Just my opinion. Price is pretty high. There is a comparable 1916 on GB that is hovering in the 3600 range right now with no reserve. If I hadn't just ponied up on a registered M-2 carbine.....

12-28-2013, 09:03 PM	#7
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 488 Thanks: 90 Thanked 123 Times in 83 Posts	since the germany stamp is not showing halo or bright metal, wouldn't this also indicate the gun was refinished after the germany stamp was struck?

12-29-2013, 01:04 AM	#8
gunbugs Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska. Home of the best moose. Posts: 660 Thanks: 366 Thanked 1,179 Times in 395 Posts	I have a habit of saving my pennies and waiting for a good deal to walk into my hands. The right gun at the right price.