1900 Test Luger?

CalvinCamaro · 08-28-2014, 09:29 PM

I believe I have a 1900 test luger that I've pm'd Ron Wood to help me identify. I'm hoping someone can help me locate a sideplate that will fit this long receiver model as the current sideplate isn't working and have been told it was from a P-08. I know the sideplate may need finessed to work but what do I need to be looking for to at least get one that is close enough to make this gun functional.

Any help would be appreciated.

Edward Tinker · 08-28-2014, 09:35 PM

Looks nice - a 1900 sideplate is hard to find, not impossible, but not common.

I think the sn is 6448? which would be a bannerman number - 8448 would be too high

I like it no matter what

Ron Wood · 08-29-2014, 12:16 AM

David,
The side plate is from a later model. A 1900 side plate will have a square upper left corner, not rounded at all, and the right edge of the plate will be flush with the frame. The little L-shaped transfer bar is also different in these early guns, that is why yours does not function properly. Tom Heller (lugerdoc) has quite an inventory of Luger parts and might be able to provide what you need

ithacaartist · 08-29-2014, 02:13 AM

Ron, do you know it this is a newly-surfaced example, or one that has already been observed and recorded?

Lugerdoc · 08-29-2014, 10:46 AM

Calvin, Sorry I'm currently sold out of M1900 side plates & trigger levers. TH

Ron Wood · 08-29-2014, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ithacaartist

Ron, do you know it this is a newly-surfaced example, or one that has already been observed and recorded?

David,
I am away from home right now so I don't have access to my data. Looking it up will be one of the first things I do when I get back home next week! (I suspect it might be a new example).
Ron

drbuster · 08-29-2014, 01:00 PM

David, you might try Mike Krause at 650-571 7583, noon to 5 PM, Tuesday through Saturday Pacific time. He has an amazing array of parts.

CalvinCamaro · 09-09-2014, 10:38 PM

Thanks everyone for the assistance. I may have found a 1900 sideplate assembly with excellent blueing. However, the guy wants $500. I'm not sure if that is a fair price or not. What do you think?

Edward Tinker · 09-09-2014, 11:25 PM

Seems high, but then I have only had a 1900 sideplate on a gun, but have had lots of 1908 sideplates....

So, although high, it might be only game in town, if you need it now...

Ron Wood · 09-10-2014, 01:06 AM

I have been a little slow in getting back to this thread...my apologies. The gun is a new serial number for the data base (thank you !) and it is a Bannerman purchase piece so totally authentic! I think that $500 is pretty high for a side plate, but since it has excellent bluing the condition would be similar to the gun (assuming the side plate is original and not a reblue) it might be a decent investment. It would be nice to have a complete functional Test piece.

drbuster · 09-10-2014, 02:52 AM

Keep in mind that this side plate, if it is the one I'm thinking of, has to be custom rust blued to match the rest of the gun, thus labor is involved, not just shipping off a 1900 side plate from a parts box. Considering this, $500 is arguably high but satisfaction is guaranteed and I doubt another 1900 side plate that would augment the entire gun's appearance could be had for less.

Ron Wood · 09-10-2014, 06:21 AM

Herb
What is the current condition of the side plate? Is it "in the white"?

Lugerdoc · 09-10-2014, 11:35 AM

Herb, The only way I'd pay $500 for this side plate, is if it has the matching 2 digit serial on the lower edge to your pistol. Tom

drbuster · 09-10-2014, 04:14 PM

Tom...agreed! The side plate currently, I am told, has significant blue wear.

MikeP · 09-10-2014, 04:58 PM

You are being squeezed by someone seeing desparation.

I would try and hold out for another.

08-28-2014, 09:29 PM	#1
CalvinCamaro User Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 8 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	1900 Test Luger? I believe I have a 1900 test luger that I've pm'd Ron Wood to help me identify. I'm hoping someone can help me locate a sideplate that will fit this long receiver model as the current sideplate isn't working and have been told it was from a P-08. I know the sideplate may need finessed to work but what do I need to be looking for to at least get one that is close enough to make this gun functional. Any help would be appreciated. Attached Thumbnails

08-28-2014, 09:35 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Looks nice - a 1900 sideplate is hard to find, not impossible, but not common. I think the sn is 6448? which would be a bannerman number - 8448 would be too high I like it no matter what __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-29-2014, 12:16 AM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	David, The side plate is from a later model. A 1900 side plate will have a square upper left corner, not rounded at all, and the right edge of the plate will be flush with the frame. The little L-shaped transfer bar is also different in these early guns, that is why yours does not function properly. Tom Heller (lugerdoc) has quite an inventory of Luger parts and might be able to provide what you need __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

08-29-2014, 02:13 AM	#4
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,347 Thanks: 7,285 Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts	Ron, do you know it this is a newly-surfaced example, or one that has already been observed and recorded? __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

08-29-2014, 10:46 AM	#5
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Calvin, Sorry I'm currently sold out of M1900 side plates & trigger levers. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 [email protected]

08-29-2014, 01:00 PM	#7
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	David, you might try Mike Krause at 650-571 7583, noon to 5 PM, Tuesday through Saturday Pacific time. He has an amazing array of parts.

09-09-2014, 10:38 PM	#8
CalvinCamaro User Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 8 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Thanks everyone for the assistance. I may have found a 1900 sideplate assembly with excellent blueing. However, the guy wants $500. I'm not sure if that is a fair price or not. What do you think?

09-09-2014, 11:25 PM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Seems high, but then I have only had a 1900 sideplate on a gun, but have had lots of 1908 sideplates.... So, although high, it might be only game in town, if you need it now... __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

09-10-2014, 01:06 AM	#10
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	I have been a little slow in getting back to this thread...my apologies. The gun is a new serial number for the data base (thank you !) and it is a Bannerman purchase piece so totally authentic! I think that $500 is pretty high for a side plate, but since it has excellent bluing the condition would be similar to the gun (assuming the side plate is original and not a reblue) it might be a decent investment. It would be nice to have a complete functional Test piece. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

09-10-2014, 02:52 AM	#11
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Keep in mind that this side plate, if it is the one I'm thinking of, has to be custom rust blued to match the rest of the gun, thus labor is involved, not just shipping off a 1900 side plate from a parts box. Considering this, $500 is arguably high but satisfaction is guaranteed and I doubt another 1900 side plate that would augment the entire gun's appearance could be had for less.

09-10-2014, 06:21 AM	#12
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	Herb What is the current condition of the side plate? Is it "in the white"? __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

09-10-2014, 11:35 AM	#13
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Herb, The only way I'd pay $500 for this side plate, is if it has the matching 2 digit serial on the lower edge to your pistol. Tom __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 [email protected]

09-10-2014, 04:14 PM	#14
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Tom...agreed! The side plate currently, I am told, has significant blue wear.

09-10-2014, 04:58 PM	#15
MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	You are being squeezed by someone seeing desparation. I would try and hold out for another.