Artillery question

lugersrkewl · 08-10-2015, 08:56 PM

I have an artillery with crown jss. Serial is 48 no suffix . It's not a 1914 right?

DonVoigt · 08-10-2015, 09:31 PM

What is the date over the chamber?

Edward Tinker · 08-10-2015, 10:34 PM

We need more information?

Just saying the possible acceptance markings does not help us.

DWM? Erfurt?

Matching?

Pictures, written description please.

lugersrkewl · 08-11-2015, 02:22 PM

It's dwm. Matched but reblued. Chamber date 1918, I'm thinking of having it restored especially if it's a 1914 but with the research I have done I'm just more confused.

George Anderson · 08-11-2015, 03:42 PM

What's confusing is your use of "1914" with artillery. This is a hang-over from Datig's book years ago wherein he referred to all artilleries as "model 1914 artillery" just as he identified all P08s with stock lugs as "model 1914 Lugers". Artilleries are artilleries or LP08s and military 4" Lugers are P08s.

DavidJayUden · 08-11-2015, 04:24 PM

A 1918 DWM is not particularly rare gun and the cost of restoration may get you up-side-down in a hurry. I'd either buy original finish or live with re-blue. Artilleries are a hoot to shoot, so there is a good market for refinished "shooters".
dju

lugersrkewl · 08-11-2015, 09:33 PM

The chamber date is 1917 . Is it a game changer?
Also I would have a nice shooter price even after restoration IMHO
thanks

DonVoigt · 08-11-2015, 10:45 PM

1917 is the most common DWM artillery date, so it is kind of a "negative" changer.

You should really post some pictures!

DavidJayUden · 08-12-2015, 01:15 AM

1918. 1917. What's the difference? It's been reblued, never to be original again.
dju

08-10-2015, 08:56 PM	#1
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	Artillery question I have an artillery with crown jss. Serial is 48 no suffix . It's not a 1914 right?

08-10-2015, 09:31 PM	#2
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,442 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	What is the date over the chamber?

08-10-2015, 10:34 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	We need more information? Just saying the possible acceptance markings does not help us. DWM? Erfurt? Matching? Pictures, written description please.

08-11-2015, 02:22 PM	#4
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	It's dwm. Matched but reblued. Chamber date 1918, I'm thinking of having it restored especially if it's a 1914 but with the research I have done I'm just more confused.

08-11-2015, 03:42 PM	#5
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,529 Times in 787 Posts	What's confusing is your use of "1914" with artillery. This is a hang-over from Datig's book years ago wherein he referred to all artilleries as "model 1914 artillery" just as he identified all P08s with stock lugs as "model 1914 Lugers". Artilleries are artilleries or LP08s and military 4" Lugers are P08s.

08-11-2015, 04:24 PM	#6
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	A 1918 DWM is not particularly rare gun and the cost of restoration may get you up-side-down in a hurry. I'd either buy original finish or live with re-blue. Artilleries are a hoot to shoot, so there is a good market for refinished "shooters". dju

08-11-2015, 09:33 PM	#7
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	The chamber date is 1917 . Is it a game changer? Also I would have a nice shooter price even after restoration IMHO thanks

08-11-2015, 10:45 PM	#8
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,442 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	1917 is the most common DWM artillery date, so it is kind of a "negative" changer. You should really post some pictures!

08-12-2015, 01:15 AM	#9
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	1918. 1917. What's the difference? It's been reblued, never to be original again. dju