Crown means what?

aldo35 · 09-23-2015, 06:39 PM

I recently purchase a 1913 Efurt P08 rig that included a nice holster and tool. I have attached a picture of the tool, it appears to be a crown over either old German letter F,I or J. I assume this is a vey common tool. Appreciate your comments.

Norme · 09-23-2015, 07:19 PM

Hi Joseph, At the risk of getting my head chopped off, I think it's a DWM Crown/V.
Regards, Norm

Edward Tinker · 09-23-2015, 08:44 PM

Joe, moved this to its own thread

FNorm · 09-23-2015, 10:17 PM

Using all the electronic imagery I have , I think I see a crown/F on the tool, and a crown/ Roman numeral 3.

aldo35 · 09-23-2015, 11:29 PM

I wasn't sure about the letter on the tool. It does look like the F, but old German letters I and J look almost identical to the F.

The mark on the holster is quite clear and is the Roman numeral three.

Thanks

Aldo35

Lugerdoc · 09-24-2015, 10:27 AM

The crown on your tool is WW1 era Imperial over an inspector's initial. The one on the holster is WW1 era Bavarian. TH

klaus 3338 · 09-25-2015, 02:43 AM

Bavaria has had 3 Army Corps during the Imperial time and the C/III indicates that the holster belonged to a unit of the III Bavarian Army Corps. One can found the C/I to III only on 1918 dated holsters and that has the same meaning as the LZA stamps on Prussian holsters....
By the way: The tool has the (DWM/ Spandau) C/F acceptance and I think there is a letter or a number on the bended part of the tool. There is a (DWM/ Spandau) C/I tool that looks very similar to the C/F tool.

09-23-2015, 06:39 PM	#1
aldo35 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Northern GA Posts: 343 Thanks: 2,223 Thanked 146 Times in 76 Posts	Crown means what? I recently purchase a 1913 Efurt P08 rig that included a nice holster and tool. I have attached a picture of the tool, it appears to be a crown over either old German letter F,I or J. I assume this is a vey common tool. Appreciate your comments. Attached Thumbnails

09-23-2015, 11:29 PM	#5
aldo35 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Northern GA Posts: 343 Thanks: 2,223 Thanked 146 Times in 76 Posts	Luger Tool I wasn't sure about the letter on the tool. It does look like the F, but old German letters I and J look almost identical to the F. The mark on the holster is quite clear and is the Roman numeral three. Thanks Aldo35

09-24-2015, 10:27 AM	#6
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	The crown on your tool is WW1 era Imperial over an inspector's initial. The one on the holster is WW1 era Bavarian. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 [email protected]

09-23-2015, 07:19 PM	#2
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Joseph, At the risk of getting my head chopped off, I think it's a DWM Crown/V. Regards, Norm

09-23-2015, 08:44 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,033 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Joe, moved this to its own thread

09-23-2015, 10:17 PM	#4
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	Using all the electronic imagery I have , I think I see a crown/F on the tool, and a crown/ Roman numeral 3.

09-25-2015, 02:43 AM	#7
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 517 Thanks: 0 Thanked 411 Times in 160 Posts	Bavaria has had 3 Army Corps during the Imperial time and the C/III indicates that the holster belonged to a unit of the III Bavarian Army Corps. One can found the C/I to III only on 1918 dated holsters and that has the same meaning as the LZA stamps on Prussian holsters.... By the way: The tool has the (DWM/ Spandau) C/F acceptance and I think there is a letter or a number on the bended part of the tool. There is a (DWM/ Spandau) C/I tool that looks very similar to the C/F tool.