I Killed My Prior Nikon Of More Than Five Years~

cirelaw · 12-26-2017, 01:52 PM

Good thing Debby got the idiot warranty~ Here are the first test photos taken with my new Nikon Coolpix. I have posted these prettys before but never so sweet and sharp!!

DonVoigt · 12-26-2017, 06:00 PM

That's not a Canon, that is a Nikon.

They have more on ebay!

cirelaw · 12-26-2017, 06:08 PM

Thank You Don!! I get mixed up with names!

sheepherder · 12-27-2017, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

That's not a Canon, that is a Nikon.

They have more on ebay!

One of you is on crack...But which one???

DonVoigt · 12-27-2017, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheepherder

One of you is on crack...But which one???

Snooze, you miss out.
Eric deleted the picture of his broken Nikon, and added some luger pictures!

Why? I'm not sure.

sheepherder · 12-27-2017, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Snooze, you miss out.
Eric deleted the picture of his broken Nikon, and added some luger pictures!

Why? I'm not sure.

He put the thread here in the holster forum...How about some information about the holster???

Who made it, what stamp does it have, is it original or a repro (almost certainly!), any story behind it???

Norme · 12-27-2017, 10:37 AM

The holster is for a "Test Eagle Luger", it's authenticity has been questioned on Jan Stills' forum.
Norm

mrerick · 12-27-2017, 10:37 AM

That looks like Eric's test eagle with it's proper test eagle holster?

Very nice... A very beautiful fitted case as well...

DonVoigt · 12-27-2017, 01:33 PM

This luger and holster have been posted by Eric before(surprise).
IIRC, the holster is a reproduction; though not all agreed.

sheepherder · 12-27-2017, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

This luger and holster have been posted by Eric before(surprise).
IIRC, the holster is a reproduction; though not all agreed.

I did Search at Still's; got 135 hits for "holster + cirelaw". Many had not been answered at all, so I guess the Still's crowd is getting blase about this holster...

I recall in years past that El Paso Saddlery made clones of the 'Test Luger' holster. Nice looking ones. Also clones of the US 1911 holster, in several styles.

Edit: They still do!

https://epsaddlery.com/product-categ...ry/#quick-view

I should go out and rent "The Wild Bunch". I haven't watched that in years...decades...Lotsa blood splatter...

wlyon · 12-27-2017, 05:25 PM

Note that the above repro test holster is for right hand carry. ,Original test holsters were left but worn on the right. I have one of these repros. They are very well made. I am sure El Paso makes both left and right. I believe that early in there production they even added the initials etc.at least they had no manufacturers mark. The wider spacing on the back stitching gives them away. El Paso was not trying to defraud just make a very close repro. Unfortunately easily made into a correct looking test holster. Later they added there name. Bill

ithacaartist · 12-27-2017, 07:26 PM

IIRC, Eric's holster suffered some water damage, which would give it some more apparent "age"!

cirelaw · 12-28-2017, 01:11 PM

My new camera arrived,I take some fine photographs including the inside wear. Please let me know what specific you want! I recently hosted had a member Dick Herman inspected my lugers and this very holster in his hands!! Dick can verify its authenticity!

cirelaw · 12-28-2017, 01:44 PM

Bill with all do respect, have you ever or inspected an agreed upon legit, one that we can compare? I will submit/ mail mine to any agreed upon expert!

wlyon · 12-28-2017, 02:32 PM

Eric
Yes I have looked at a couple. I have also looked at many in books and online. All the original ones have the 32 line stitching on the back. I really don't care one way or the other but this is a forum for people to look, question and learn. Passing off questionable merchandise does not help anyone. Sometimes we just need to bit the bullet. We have all been there. You have an excellent luger collection. We have all made purchase mistakes. We just need to live with our errors . Regards. Bill

cirelaw · 12-28-2017, 02:48 PM

Thank You Bill! I will leave is alone! There were a thousand made in just a few months!!

sheepherder · 12-28-2017, 03:44 PM

Eric -

The El Paso clone is only $130. If you paid much more then it might be an idea to get the El Paso clone for showing off to ice-cream eating 10-year-olds at gun shows and keep the Real Deal in your safe.

Bill is right about the orientation; they offer left or right, black or 'russet', any US embossing [US, USAF, USMC, USN] even though there may not have been such a service before WW 1...

Dick Herman · 12-28-2017, 08:08 PM

I had the pleasure of examining this US Test Luger Holster this past January. I do not claim to be an expert on this rare model of holster. However I have seen a few examples both repros and a couple of originals. I also collect early 1900 US russet holsters for the appropriate US pistols.
If I remember correctly your US Test Luger Holster has a pleasant uniform darker brown glow that US russet holsters achieve with time. The brass washers, rivets and over flap post have some green verdigris formed from reaction with leather treatment chemicals. The over flap has the large well formed Oval with US in the center. The back of the flap has the Rock Island/Arsenal/EHS. The lower tap of the over flap did not have any stamped marking.
I believe that the missing mark would be an inspector’s initials. In the literature and online I have observed different variations of inspector’s marks. There can be numerous assumptions of why the inspector’s mark is not there.
In my opinion, I believe that Eric has a legitimate US Test Luger Holster from the 1902 period. I would be proud to have this rare holster in my collection.

cirelaw · 12-28-2017, 08:20 PM

"Rep Ipsa Loquiter " The evidence proves the
the truth!

cirelaw · 12-28-2017, 08:52 PM

Here is a legit holster!http://www.landofborchardt.com/holsters.html#american

12-26-2017, 01:52 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I Killed My Prior Nikon Of More Than Five Years~ Good thing Debby got the idiot warranty~ Here are the first test photos taken with my new Nikon Coolpix. I have posted these prettys before but never so sweet and sharp!! Attached Thumbnails

12-26-2017, 06:00 PM	#2
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,442 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	That's not a Canon, that is a Nikon. They have more on ebay! __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

12-27-2017, 10:37 AM	#8
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	That looks like Eric's test eagle with it's proper test eagle holster? Very nice... A very beautiful fitted case as well... __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

12-27-2017, 01:33 PM	#9
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,442 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	This luger and holster have been posted by Eric before(surprise). IIRC, the holster is a reproduction; though not all agreed. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

12-27-2017, 05:25 PM	#11
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,637 Thanks: 3,174 Thanked 2,561 Times in 956 Posts	Note that the above repro test holster is for right hand carry. ,Original test holsters were left but worn on the right. I have one of these repros. They are very well made. I am sure El Paso makes both left and right. I believe that early in there production they even added the initials etc.at least they had no manufacturers mark. The wider spacing on the back stitching gives them away. El Paso was not trying to defraud just make a very close repro. Unfortunately easily made into a correct looking test holster. Later they added there name. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

12-26-2017, 06:08 PM	#3
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Thank You Don!! I get mixed up with names!

12-27-2017, 10:37 AM	#7
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	The holster is for a "Test Eagle Luger", it's authenticity has been questioned on Jan Stills' forum. Norm

12-27-2017, 07:26 PM	#12
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,347 Thanks: 7,285 Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts	IIRC, Eric's holster suffered some water damage, which would give it some more apparent "age"! __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

12-28-2017, 01:11 PM	#13
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	My new camera arrived,I take some fine photographs including the inside wear. Please let me know what specific you want! I recently hosted had a member Dick Herman inspected my lugers and this very holster in his hands!! Dick can verify its authenticity!

12-28-2017, 01:44 PM	#14
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Bill with all do respect, have you ever or inspected an agreed upon legit, one that we can compare? I will submit/ mail mine to any agreed upon expert!

12-28-2017, 02:32 PM	#15
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,637 Thanks: 3,174 Thanked 2,561 Times in 956 Posts	Eric Yes I have looked at a couple. I have also looked at many in books and online. All the original ones have the 32 line stitching on the back. I really don't care one way or the other but this is a forum for people to look, question and learn. Passing off questionable merchandise does not help anyone. Sometimes we just need to bit the bullet. We have all been there. You have an excellent luger collection. We have all made purchase mistakes. We just need to live with our errors . Regards. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

12-28-2017, 02:48 PM	#16
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Thank You Bill! I will leave is alone! There were a thousand made in just a few months!!

12-28-2017, 03:44 PM	#17
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,183 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	Eric - The El Paso clone is only $130. If you paid much more then it might be an idea to get the El Paso clone for showing off to ice-cream eating 10-year-olds at gun shows and keep the Real Deal in your safe. Bill is right about the orientation; they offer left or right, black or 'russet', any US embossing [US, USAF, USMC, USN] even though there may not have been such a service before WW 1... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

12-28-2017, 08:08 PM	#18
Dick Herman User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 302 Thanks: 496 Thanked 354 Times in 138 Posts	I had the pleasure of examining this US Test Luger Holster this past January. I do not claim to be an expert on this rare model of holster. However I have seen a few examples both repros and a couple of originals. I also collect early 1900 US russet holsters for the appropriate US pistols. If I remember correctly your US Test Luger Holster has a pleasant uniform darker brown glow that US russet holsters achieve with time. The brass washers, rivets and over flap post have some green verdigris formed from reaction with leather treatment chemicals. The over flap has the large well formed Oval with US in the center. The back of the flap has the Rock Island/Arsenal/EHS. The lower tap of the over flap did not have any stamped marking. I believe that the missing mark would be an inspector’s initials. In the literature and online I have observed different variations of inspector’s marks. There can be numerous assumptions of why the inspector’s mark is not there. In my opinion, I believe that Eric has a legitimate US Test Luger Holster from the 1902 period. I would be proud to have this rare holster in my collection. Last edited by Dick Herman; 12-28-2017 at 08:10 PM. Reason: added Eric has

12-28-2017, 08:20 PM	#19
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	"Rep Ipsa Loquiter " The evidence proves the the truth!

12-28-2017, 08:52 PM	#20
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Here is a legit holster!http://www.landofborchardt.com/holsters.html#american