How To Deal With A Luger Dealer~

cirelaw · 01-15-2018, 02:19 PM

http://www.harryviezensfineguns.com/...with-a-dealer/

sheepherder · 01-15-2018, 03:38 PM

Interesting story about the Navy Luger. Pity the pictures are so small.

cirelaw · 01-15-2018, 04:36 PM

Collecting WW1 Guns~ http://www.harryviezensfineguns.com/...ld-war-i-guns/

cirelaw · 01-15-2018, 05:30 PM

Selling Your Firearm~~ http://www.harryviezensfineguns.com/...-consignments/

cirelaw · 01-15-2018, 05:50 PM

The Art Of The Deal!! http://www.harryviezensfineguns.com/...with-a-dealer/

Jim Mac · 01-15-2018, 09:33 PM

the author is probably a reputable dealer explaining things. but there are other types of dealers that tries to knock your gun to get the lowest possible price.
My first luger is a reblued shooter. The gent I bought it from was wanting a Luger, went to the gun show a d a older guy happened to have this luger and was showing it to a dealer. The dealer pretty much bad mouthed everything about the gun because it was reblued, 2 parts didn't match etc. As the dealer was trying to seal the deal, the guy I ended up buying it from turned and asked the seller, "How much were you wanting for it?" When the guy me tioned the price, Lance just pulled out the cash, paid the asking price in front of tbe dealer, took the pistol and thanked the seller for the gun and left. In this case, the buyer was happy, the seller was happy the dealer was left empty handed. jim

cirelaw · 01-15-2018, 11:45 PM

Did you fill out the required FED paperwork??? I wonder what percent don't!!

RichSr · 01-16-2018, 01:21 PM

If the buyer and seller were residents of the same state there is no required "FED paperwork". Many states require no "paperwork" on transfers between individuals. It's important to know the law.

cirelaw · 01-16-2018, 01:57 PM

Even with my Florida concealed weapons permit, the seller still has to call it has to call it in to the feds!~ Eric

Edward Tinker · 01-16-2018, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw

Even with my Florida concealed weapons permit, the seller still has to call it has to call it in to the feds!~ Eric

not in a lot of states - you do in Washington now, unless you have a C&R

RichSr · 01-16-2018, 04:07 PM

When I last checked 31 states placed no restrictions on private sales.

ithacaartist · 01-16-2018, 05:43 PM

All handguns passing between private individuals in NYS are transferred through a dealer, so there's a transfer fee involved. The recipient undergoes a NICS background check, and the seller gets paperwork to allow removal of the pistol from his/her permit. Long guns between individuals are still unrestricted--unless it's a registered, dreaded "assault rifle," which can only be transferred to immediate family, or sold to a dealer or out-of -state. CA is likely at this level, or worse.

I'm not particularly upset by having a background check, although a transfer would take up way less of the dealer's time without one. I don't know of any other way of ascertaining whether or not the intended new owner is a danger to him/herself or others. Of course, they miss a significant number of inappropriate candidates because the data base is only as accurate or timely as it is maintained--and we saw the system fail miserably with the last couple shooters because of this.

Jim Mac · 01-16-2018, 09:34 PM

Arizona is a cash and carry state when it comes to buying and selling guns. only thing you technically should do is to ask for a az id. since to be legal, selling a pistol to someone face to face the buyer has to be a Arizona resident too. It's kind of cool to go to the swap meet (Sierra vista) and among the household junk, plants, there are tables of rifles, pistols and ammo. mostly overpriced, but sometimes I get lucky. There was even a mismatched import stamped luger a couple years ago with a signed letter from the family that sold the gun stating grandpa got the pistol from a panzer tank crewmember in WW2. (It was import stamped) priced at 1500. jim

lew1 · 01-24-2018, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw

Even with my Florida concealed weapons permit, the seller still has to call it has to call it in to the feds!~ Eric

Not in my state as long as the seller and buyer are residents.

alanint · 01-24-2018, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw

Even with my Florida concealed weapons permit, the seller still has to call it has to call it in to the feds!~ Eric

That is incorrect, Eric. Face to face sales between two Florida residents are still legal.

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01-15-2018, 09:33 PM	#6
Jim Mac User Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 261 Thanks: 2 Thanked 67 Times in 35 Posts	the author is probably a reputable dealer explaining things. but there are other types of dealers that tries to knock your gun to get the lowest possible price. My first luger is a reblued shooter. The gent I bought it from was wanting a Luger, went to the gun show a d a older guy happened to have this luger and was showing it to a dealer. The dealer pretty much bad mouthed everything about the gun because it was reblued, 2 parts didn't match etc. As the dealer was trying to seal the deal, the guy I ended up buying it from turned and asked the seller, "How much were you wanting for it?" When the guy me tioned the price, Lance just pulled out the cash, paid the asking price in front of tbe dealer, took the pistol and thanked the seller for the gun and left. In this case, the buyer was happy, the seller was happy the dealer was left empty handed. jim

01-15-2018, 11:45 PM	#7
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Did you fill out the required FED paperwork??? I wonder what percent don't!!

01-16-2018, 01:21 PM	#8
RichSr User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Texas Posts: 128 Thanks: 153 Thanked 54 Times in 36 Posts	If the buyer and seller were residents of the same state there is no required "FED paperwork". Many states require no "paperwork" on transfers between individuals. It's important to know the law. __________________ Rich

01-16-2018, 01:57 PM	#9
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Even with my Florida concealed weapons permit, the seller still has to call it has to call it in to the feds!~ Eric

01-16-2018, 04:07 PM	#11
RichSr User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Texas Posts: 128 Thanks: 153 Thanked 54 Times in 36 Posts	When I last checked 31 states placed no restrictions on private sales. __________________ Rich

01-16-2018, 05:43 PM	#12
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,347 Thanks: 7,285 Thanked 2,579 Times in 1,366 Posts	All handguns passing between private individuals in NYS are transferred through a dealer, so there's a transfer fee involved. The recipient undergoes a NICS background check, and the seller gets paperwork to allow removal of the pistol from his/her permit. Long guns between individuals are still unrestricted--unless it's a registered, dreaded "assault rifle," which can only be transferred to immediate family, or sold to a dealer or out-of -state. CA is likely at this level, or worse. I'm not particularly upset by having a background check, although a transfer would take up way less of the dealer's time without one. I don't know of any other way of ascertaining whether or not the intended new owner is a danger to him/herself or others. Of course, they miss a significant number of inappropriate candidates because the data base is only as accurate or timely as it is maintained--and we saw the system fail miserably with the last couple shooters because of this. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

01-16-2018, 09:34 PM	#13
Jim Mac User Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 261 Thanks: 2 Thanked 67 Times in 35 Posts	Arizona is a cash and carry state when it comes to buying and selling guns. only thing you technically should do is to ask for a az id. since to be legal, selling a pistol to someone face to face the buyer has to be a Arizona resident too. It's kind of cool to go to the swap meet (Sierra vista) and among the household junk, plants, there are tables of rifles, pistols and ammo. mostly overpriced, but sometimes I get lucky. There was even a mismatched import stamped luger a couple years ago with a signed letter from the family that sold the gun stating grandpa got the pistol from a panzer tank crewmember in WW2. (It was import stamped) priced at 1500. jim