DMW Artillery Luger question

jarredzak96 · 01-28-2018, 08:35 PM

Hello, I am currently looking at a artillery luger made by DMW in 1918. The shop is asking $1500 for the pistol, but i have some concerns with it. First off the pistol seems to be a different color, more of a blackish color than blue. Also the grooves where the stock would attached has been shaved off a little. Any information about the value of this pistol would be greatly appreciated and any history of why it would be black, ive been looking for an artillery luger for some time. Ive attached photos to this post. Thanks.

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DonVoigt · 01-28-2018, 08:51 PM

Welcome to the board.
From what I can see, it is likely reblued, mismatched, and has had the markings on the right side of the chamber defaced.

Your pictures won't enlarge, they must be on an outside server. Please put them on the forum server. Some guys will not go to third party hosts, and eventually the photos will disappear and the thread will be useless in future.

As to the price, a mismatched reblued shooter is listed on one of these boards for $1100; which is probably closer to the value as a shooter.

Edward Tinker · 01-28-2018, 08:53 PM

well, not sure about the black, as the finish looks normal to me.

Its mismatched and the stock lug is ground off?

A shooter artillery I would say is worth $1000 to $1200 - but is the stock lug ground or?
If ground, then its no fun because you can't add a stock to it.

Edward Tinker · 01-28-2018, 08:55 PM

actually Don, pictures are here on the forum and do enlarge for me - I just realized that the markings across the right acceptance is GERMANY - interesting

Norme · 01-28-2018, 09:01 PM

Hi Jarred,
The barrel doesn’t appear to have a front sight band, meaning it’s been shortened or it’s a replacement. That and the shaved stock lug would disqualify the gun for me. My advice, keep looking!
Norm

lugerholsterrepair · 01-28-2018, 09:10 PM

Hunk of steaming junk. Not collectable and it may not even shoot. Mismatched side plate..I might pay half of what they are asking..nah. No stock lug. Leave it in the shop for some fool to buy.

spartacus38 · 01-28-2018, 10:27 PM

I agree with Jerry, let it go.
Bob

wlyon · 01-28-2018, 10:58 PM

Spend some more time looking . You can find better than this. Bill

jarredzak96 · 01-28-2018, 11:43 PM

thanks guys I appreciate the info! Ill keep looking.

01-28-2018, 08:35 PM	#1
jarredzak96 New User Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	DMW Artillery Luger question Hello, I am currently looking at a artillery luger made by DMW in 1918. The shop is asking $1500 for the pistol, but i have some concerns with it. First off the pistol seems to be a different color, more of a blackish color than blue. Also the grooves where the stock would attached has been shaved off a little. Any information about the value of this pistol would be greatly appreciated and any history of why it would be black, ive been looking for an artillery luger for some time. Ive attached photos to this post. Thanks.

01-28-2018, 08:51 PM	#2
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,442 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Welcome to the board. From what I can see, it is likely reblued, mismatched, and has had the markings on the right side of the chamber defaced. Your pictures won't enlarge, they must be on an outside server. Please put them on the forum server. Some guys will not go to third party hosts, and eventually the photos will disappear and the thread will be useless in future. As to the price, a mismatched reblued shooter is listed on one of these boards for $1100; which is probably closer to the value as a shooter. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

01-28-2018, 08:53 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	well, not sure about the black, as the finish looks normal to me. Its mismatched and the stock lug is ground off? A shooter artillery I would say is worth $1000 to $1200 - but is the stock lug ground or? If ground, then its no fun because you can't add a stock to it. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-28-2018, 09:10 PM	#6
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Hunk of steaming junk. Not collectable and it may not even shoot. Mismatched side plate..I might pay half of what they are asking..nah. No stock lug. Leave it in the shop for some fool to buy. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-28-2018, 10:58 PM	#8
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,637 Thanks: 3,174 Thanked 2,561 Times in 956 Posts	Spend some more time looking . You can find better than this. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

01-28-2018, 08:55 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	actually Don, pictures are here on the forum and do enlarge for me - I just realized that the markings across the right acceptance is GERMANY - interesting

01-28-2018, 09:01 PM	#5
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Jarred, The barrel doesn’t appear to have a front sight band, meaning it’s been shortened or it’s a replacement. That and the shaved stock lug would disqualify the gun for me. My advice, keep looking! Norm

01-28-2018, 10:27 PM	#7
spartacus38 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Lake Tahoe,CA. Posts: 695 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 56 Posts	I agree with Jerry, let it go. Bob

01-28-2018, 11:43 PM	#9
jarredzak96 New User Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	DMW luger for sale thanks guys I appreciate the info! Ill keep looking.