Nambu question

Dave Sanders · 06-19-2018, 06:36 PM

I put this up on another forum, butgetting no replies. This is a knowlegable group, so hoping some of you may help/advise. I have a guy who's dad brought back a march of 45 dated nambu, 2 matching mags, and canvas holster. It is in good shape, but I am not sure of value of these last ditch. Do they hold the value of early ones or less value because of their quality, or higher value because of their low production? Anyway, I guesstemate the value between $750-1250. Am I way off or in the range? Thanks for any help.
Dave

DonVoigt · 06-19-2018, 09:14 PM

A T 14 with two matching mags and holster is sought after for sure, the late pistols- like your 20.3 are as or more desireable as the other dates.
There are fewer late mfg. pistols.

Pricing is always a gamble and a range, I'd go from $1000 to 1500 on yours for quick sale, and maybe more at auction.

There were only some 280k T 14s and only 71k T 94 pistols made; compare this to over 2 million lugers. One has to wonder "when" collectors will realize the scarcity of nice Nambu pistols.

Zorba · 06-19-2018, 10:37 PM

Data point: I paid $650 for my '42 example. One non-matching mag (I since have found one!), and no holster. About 4 years ago.

gunnertwo · 06-20-2018, 01:46 AM

What is the condition? Is it matching? Blueing percentage? Pics would help in making an opinion. I use my phone and then send them to my computer.

G2

Dave Sanders · 06-20-2018, 01:52 AM

I have them sent to my phone from the guy, but they weren't too close. It is an old high school friend whose dad brought it back and he wants to sell it and two swords. I was trying to get a ball park figure for him so we could make a fair deal for him and me. He is sending pics of the swords later. The pistol comes with the bring back papers and the guys dad wrote in white ink his name and id number on the inside lid of the holster. I'll try to send the pics to my computer and then post what I have. It looked in really good shape, but it couldn't have had too much use being made in March. Thanks for the info so far.
Dave

Edward Tinker · 06-20-2018, 02:37 AM

Also, last ditch, especially if rough looking bring a premium. I would say add a bit to Dons amount, but be advised that he is a Japanese arms expert

Dave Sanders · 06-20-2018, 02:56 AM

Thanks Ed, but that isn't what i wanted to hear😁. Here are the pictures from my phone.
Dave

MikeP · 06-20-2018, 08:11 PM

I think you got some sound advice whether it was good news or not.

Dave Sanders · 07-06-2018, 08:08 PM

I ended up getting this pistol plus the two samari type swords from the person. I thought I would post a few better pictures of this pistol. I don't think it has been fired. Both mags match, grips are numbered and match, internal firing pin matches, but extra one doesn't, it has bring back papers, and cleaning rod, and all the other numbers match. It is a pretty nice example even being late war made.
Dave

DonVoigt · 07-06-2018, 09:46 PM

Nice rig; but you can be sure it was fired.
Extra pin should match too, if not it was used and replaced or maybe just lost and replaced.

A similar condition rig just sold for $1895 on GB.

Dave Sanders · 07-06-2018, 10:12 PM

Good to know. Thanks Don.

gunnertwo · 07-07-2018, 01:58 AM

I value “capture papers” when they’re with the gun. The vet connection adds a plus to the history of the gun. You can find info on the Fold3 site to get more info on the person. Nice rig!

G2

Dave Sanders · 07-07-2018, 02:27 AM

I kind of knew the vet as I went to high school with the son who sold it to me on the 4th. I asked him to send me a history of the vets service area, etc. What is Fold3 site? I am not familiar with that.
Dave

gunnertwo · 07-07-2018, 02:33 PM

The site is Fold3.com

I’m a subscriber, will try to research the vet for you. Unusual last name so may be easy to find info. Don’t spend any money with them yet.

G2

gunnertwo · 07-07-2018, 04:17 PM

Dave, PM sent with info.

G2

Sonofeugene · 07-10-2018, 07:04 PM

FYI, don't store the gun in the holster.

Dave Sanders · 07-11-2018, 12:28 AM

Thanks for that. Even in our dry climate, I don't store guns in holsters, but good advice.
Dave

bayoned · 10-06-2018, 11:00 PM

Nice late slab grip rig !

"There were only some 280k T 14s and only 71k T 94 pistols made; compare this to over 2 million lugers. One has to wonder "when" collectors will realize the scarcity of nice Nambu pistols"

.BTW, I second Don Voigt's observations on Japanese pistols. (and until the market wakes up to this, then it's working for my acquiring!)

Mikew · 10-11-2018, 05:04 PM

I'd be pleased to find that rig, very nice.

Are the swords military t-98 Gunto's? Pics?

Dave Sanders · 10-11-2018, 08:34 PM

One sword is a navy and signed tang and the other is the factory made metal handle type with matching numbers.
Dave

06-19-2018, 06:36 PM	#1
Dave Sanders User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hamer, Idaho Posts: 283 Thanks: 26 Thanked 43 Times in 22 Posts	Nambu question I put this up on another forum, butgetting no replies. This is a knowlegable group, so hoping some of you may help/advise. I have a guy who's dad brought back a march of 45 dated nambu, 2 matching mags, and canvas holster. It is in good shape, but I am not sure of value of these last ditch. Do they hold the value of early ones or less value because of their quality, or higher value because of their low production? Anyway, I guesstemate the value between $750-1250. Am I way off or in the range? Thanks for any help. Dave

06-19-2018, 09:14 PM	#2
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,442 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	A T 14 with two matching mags and holster is sought after for sure, the late pistols- like your 20.3 are as or more desireable as the other dates. There are fewer late mfg. pistols. Pricing is always a gamble and a range, I'd go from $1000 to 1500 on yours for quick sale, and maybe more at auction. There were only some 280k T 14s and only 71k T 94 pistols made; compare this to over 2 million lugers. One has to wonder "when" collectors will realize the scarcity of nice Nambu pistols. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

06-20-2018, 02:37 AM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Also, last ditch, especially if rough looking bring a premium. I would say add a bit to Dons amount, but be advised that he is a Japanese arms expert __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

06-20-2018, 02:56 AM	#7
Dave Sanders User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hamer, Idaho Posts: 283 Thanks: 26 Thanked 43 Times in 22 Posts	Thanks Ed, but that isn't what i wanted to hear😁. Here are the pictures from my phone. Dave Attached Thumbnails

07-06-2018, 08:08 PM	#9
Dave Sanders User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hamer, Idaho Posts: 283 Thanks: 26 Thanked 43 Times in 22 Posts	I ended up getting this pistol plus the two samari type swords from the person. I thought I would post a few better pictures of this pistol. I don't think it has been fired. Both mags match, grips are numbered and match, internal firing pin matches, but extra one doesn't, it has bring back papers, and cleaning rod, and all the other numbers match. It is a pretty nice example even being late war made. Dave Attached Images

06-19-2018, 10:37 PM	#3
Zorba User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Merritt Island, Fl Posts: 952 Thanks: 777 Thanked 527 Times in 290 Posts	Data point: I paid $650 for my '42 example. One non-matching mag (I since have found one!), and no holster. About 4 years ago.

06-20-2018, 01:46 AM	#4
gunnertwo User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nampa, Idaho Posts: 623 Thanks: 826 Thanked 930 Times in 363 Posts	What is the condition? Is it matching? Blueing percentage? Pics would help in making an opinion. I use my phone and then send them to my computer. G2

06-20-2018, 01:52 AM	#5
Dave Sanders User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hamer, Idaho Posts: 283 Thanks: 26 Thanked 43 Times in 22 Posts	I have them sent to my phone from the guy, but they weren't too close. It is an old high school friend whose dad brought it back and he wants to sell it and two swords. I was trying to get a ball park figure for him so we could make a fair deal for him and me. He is sending pics of the swords later. The pistol comes with the bring back papers and the guys dad wrote in white ink his name and id number on the inside lid of the holster. I'll try to send the pics to my computer and then post what I have. It looked in really good shape, but it couldn't have had too much use being made in March. Thanks for the info so far. Dave

06-20-2018, 08:11 PM	#8
MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	I think you got some sound advice whether it was good news or not.

07-06-2018, 09:46 PM	#10
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,442 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Nice rig; but you can be sure it was fired. Extra pin should match too, if not it was used and replaced or maybe just lost and replaced. A similar condition rig just sold for $1895 on GB. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

07-06-2018, 10:12 PM	#11
Dave Sanders User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hamer, Idaho Posts: 283 Thanks: 26 Thanked 43 Times in 22 Posts	Good to know. Thanks Don.

07-07-2018, 01:58 AM	#12
gunnertwo User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nampa, Idaho Posts: 623 Thanks: 826 Thanked 930 Times in 363 Posts	I value “capture papers” when they’re with the gun. The vet connection adds a plus to the history of the gun. You can find info on the Fold3 site to get more info on the person. Nice rig! G2

07-07-2018, 02:27 AM	#13
Dave Sanders User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hamer, Idaho Posts: 283 Thanks: 26 Thanked 43 Times in 22 Posts	I kind of knew the vet as I went to high school with the son who sold it to me on the 4th. I asked him to send me a history of the vets service area, etc. What is Fold3 site? I am not familiar with that. Dave

07-07-2018, 02:33 PM	#14
gunnertwo User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nampa, Idaho Posts: 623 Thanks: 826 Thanked 930 Times in 363 Posts	The site is Fold3.com I’m a subscriber, will try to research the vet for you. Unusual last name so may be easy to find info. Don’t spend any money with them yet. G2

07-07-2018, 04:17 PM	#15
gunnertwo User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nampa, Idaho Posts: 623 Thanks: 826 Thanked 930 Times in 363 Posts	Dave, PM sent with info. G2

07-10-2018, 07:04 PM	#16
Sonofeugene User Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 157 Thanks: 1 Thanked 118 Times in 64 Posts	FYI, don't store the gun in the holster.

07-11-2018, 12:28 AM	#17
Dave Sanders User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hamer, Idaho Posts: 283 Thanks: 26 Thanked 43 Times in 22 Posts	Thanks for that. Even in our dry climate, I don't store guns in holsters, but good advice. Dave

10-06-2018, 11:00 PM	#18
bayoned User Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 14 Thanks: 1 Thanked 9 Times in 5 Posts	Nice late slab grip rig ! "There were only some 280k T 14s and only 71k T 94 pistols made; compare this to over 2 million lugers. One has to wonder "when" collectors will realize the scarcity of nice Nambu pistols" .BTW, I second Don Voigt's observations on Japanese pistols. (and until the market wakes up to this, then it's working for my acquiring!)

10-11-2018, 05:04 PM	#19
Mikew User Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 7 Thanks: 5 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	I'd be pleased to find that rig, very nice. Are the swords military t-98 Gunto's? Pics?

10-11-2018, 08:34 PM	#20
Dave Sanders User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hamer, Idaho Posts: 283 Thanks: 26 Thanked 43 Times in 22 Posts	One sword is a navy and signed tang and the other is the factory made metal handle type with matching numbers. Dave