H&r 32l

wlyon · 12-21-2018, 08:08 PM

Does anyone have a H&R 32 long in their ammo collections. It was discontinued in 1905 after the 32LS&W came out. I need the case length measurement. Thanks. Bill

DonVoigt · 12-21-2018, 09:05 PM

Bill,
there is no mention of a "H&R 32 long" in my copy of Cartridges of the world.

There is a mention of a generic "32 long" which has a case length of 0.791" and of a "32 long, CF(for center fire)" which is 0.82' long .

Just for reference the 32 S&W long has a case length of 0.93".

Maybe this helps?

sheepherder · 12-21-2018, 10:29 PM

I have it in Handloaders Manual of Cartridge Conversions, it is also known as the .32 Colt New Police and .32 S&W Long.

Scan coming...

wlyon · 12-22-2018, 12:19 AM

Thanks Norm & Don. It is interesting that your page shows H&R as the same as 32 S&W L. But according to the H&R authors H&R did make a longer than 32S&W. It came out before the S&W 32L. They ceased it when S&W came out with the 32S&WL. I just purchased a !902 or so H&R revolver. It is in 32 cal. It also has a longer cylinder than a 32S&W. Also a 32long is just a bit to long for the cylinder. That's when I went searching on line and found 2 mentions of a H&R 32 L. They ceased it in 1905. It was a black powder load. I can cut down 32 S&WL to fit. Maybe even use 32S&WL brass with a wad cutter or flat bullet. More curious than anything. Thanks again. Bill

HerrKaiser · 12-22-2018, 12:36 AM

If it was a black powder load would .32 S&W shorts work at all?

wlyon · 12-22-2018, 10:51 AM

I expect it would fire black powder S&W shorts. But bullet would have to jump quite far from cylinder to barrel. Bill

I just measured the cylinder (1.21) As shown in Richards chart the over all length of the 32 L is 1.28. A regular 32 Long just barely sticks out the end of the cylinder. It will not function. As I said before maybe 32 S&W L brass with a flat nosed bullet would work? Bill

Grantas · 12-23-2018, 01:45 AM

Found this 32 cartridge, headstamp is WRACo 32 LC but case is .785, overall length is 1.189.

wlyon · 12-23-2018, 04:12 PM

H&R discussed above. 32 H&R long. Excellent condition. 1904 or so. Bill

12-21-2018, 08:08 PM	#1
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,637 Thanks: 3,175 Thanked 2,562 Times in 956 Posts	H&r 32l Does anyone have a H&R 32 long in their ammo collections. It was discontinued in 1905 after the 32LS&W came out. I need the case length measurement. Thanks. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

12-21-2018, 09:05 PM	#2
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,442 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Bill, there is no mention of a "H&R 32 long" in my copy of Cartridges of the world. There is a mention of a generic "32 long" which has a case length of 0.791" and of a "32 long, CF(for center fire)" which is 0.82' long . Just for reference the 32 S&W long has a case length of 0.93". Maybe this helps? __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

12-21-2018, 10:29 PM	#3
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,183 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	I have it in Handloaders Manual of Cartridge Conversions, it is also known as the .32 Colt New Police and .32 S&W Long. Scan coming... Attached Thumbnails __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

12-22-2018, 12:19 AM	#4
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,637 Thanks: 3,175 Thanked 2,562 Times in 956 Posts	Thanks Norm & Don. It is interesting that your page shows H&R as the same as 32 S&W L. But according to the H&R authors H&R did make a longer than 32S&W. It came out before the S&W 32L. They ceased it when S&W came out with the 32S&WL. I just purchased a !902 or so H&R revolver. It is in 32 cal. It also has a longer cylinder than a 32S&W. Also a 32long is just a bit to long for the cylinder. That's when I went searching on line and found 2 mentions of a H&R 32 L. They ceased it in 1905. It was a black powder load. I can cut down 32 S&WL to fit. Maybe even use 32S&WL brass with a wad cutter or flat bullet. More curious than anything. Thanks again. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

12-22-2018, 12:36 AM	#5
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 848 Thanks: 784 Thanked 861 Times in 411 Posts	If it was a black powder load would .32 S&W shorts work at all? __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

12-22-2018, 10:51 AM	#6
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,637 Thanks: 3,175 Thanked 2,562 Times in 956 Posts	I expect it would fire black powder S&W shorts. But bullet would have to jump quite far from cylinder to barrel. Bill I just measured the cylinder (1.21) As shown in Richards chart the over all length of the 32 L is 1.28. A regular 32 Long just barely sticks out the end of the cylinder. It will not function. As I said before maybe 32 S&W L brass with a flat nosed bullet would work? Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

12-23-2018, 01:45 AM	#7
Grantas Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: New Zealand Posts: 55 Thanks: 274 Thanked 26 Times in 20 Posts	Found this 32 cartridge, headstamp is WRACo 32 LC but case is .785, overall length is 1.189. Attached Thumbnails __________________ LOOKING for Erfurt Takedown lever and sideplate number 44 also DWM Magazine 2823a

12-23-2018, 04:12 PM	#8
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,637 Thanks: 3,175 Thanked 2,562 Times in 956 Posts	H&R discussed above. 32 H&R long. Excellent condition. 1904 or so. Bill Attached Thumbnails __________________ Bill Lyon