Problem with toggle assembly in 1940-42

dz · 08-02-2019, 11:56 AM

Have a complete toggle assembly in a 1940-42 that will not chamber a round, (round is partially chambered) and will not hold open and does not seem to click down solid when pulled back and released. I have tried other toggle units and they work fine. something wrong but I cannot figure it out.

Doubs · 08-02-2019, 12:37 PM

Detailed pictures from all angles may help someone here to spot the problem. Otherwise it just may be a tolerance problem where dimensions of the receiver and the toggle train are not compatible; i.e., a tight receiver and a large toggle train with each within specs.

DonVoigt · 08-02-2019, 10:25 PM

I would suspect the "S" link or mainspring.

dz · 08-03-2019, 09:11 AM

thanks Don, didn't think it would be the recoil spring because other toggles work in the gun. Never thought of the coupling link . Am about ready to give up on this luger since I also found a broken firing pin.

DonVoigt · 08-03-2019, 09:54 AM

If the toggle articulates and slides easily in the receiver, the "S" hook is about the only missing "link".

It may be twisted a little, sprung to too long, or the wrong one(a 1900 type).

Especially if other toggles work.

dz · 08-03-2019, 10:16 AM

I think you are correct, it does look a little out of shape. Too many little issues with this gun. Not good enought condition to spend much in parts since I found a broken firing pin and no hold open. thanks for your help

LU1900 · 08-06-2019, 10:45 PM

Original barrel or rework with DDR barrel ?
Some DDR barrel have a short chamber to be finish on the gun

dz · 08-14-2019, 06:48 PM

Don It was the S link, bought one on ebay and it solved the problem. Thanks alot. David

DonVoigt · 08-14-2019, 10:41 PM

That's great David.
Thanks for the follow up!

08-02-2019, 11:56 AM	#1
dz Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 259 Thanks: 1 Thanked 55 Times in 39 Posts	Problem with toggle assembly in 1940-42 Have a complete toggle assembly in a 1940-42 that will not chamber a round, (round is partially chambered) and will not hold open and does not seem to click down solid when pulled back and released. I have tried other toggle units and they work fine. something wrong but I cannot figure it out.

08-02-2019, 10:25 PM	#3
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	I would suspect the "S" link or mainspring. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

08-03-2019, 09:54 AM	#5
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	If the toggle articulates and slides easily in the receiver, the "S" hook is about the only missing "link". It may be twisted a little, sprung to too long, or the wrong one(a 1900 type). Especially if other toggles work. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

08-06-2019, 10:45 PM	#7
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 908 Thanks: 42 Thanked 469 Times in 197 Posts	Original barrel or rework with DDR barrel ? Some DDR barrel have a short chamber to be finish on the gun __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/ Last edited by LU1900; 08-07-2019 at 11:15 PM.

08-14-2019, 10:41 PM	#9
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	That's great David. Thanks for the follow up! __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

08-02-2019, 12:37 PM	#2
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,698 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,687 Times in 554 Posts	Detailed pictures from all angles may help someone here to spot the problem. Otherwise it just may be a tolerance problem where dimensions of the receiver and the toggle train are not compatible; i.e., a tight receiver and a large toggle train with each within specs.

08-03-2019, 09:11 AM	#4
dz Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 259 Thanks: 1 Thanked 55 Times in 39 Posts	thanks Don, didn't think it would be the recoil spring because other toggles work in the gun. Never thought of the coupling link . Am about ready to give up on this luger since I also found a broken firing pin.

08-03-2019, 10:16 AM	#6
dz Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 259 Thanks: 1 Thanked 55 Times in 39 Posts	I think you are correct, it does look a little out of shape. Too many little issues with this gun. Not good enought condition to spend much in parts since I found a broken firing pin and no hold open. thanks for your help

08-14-2019, 06:48 PM	#8
dz Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 259 Thanks: 1 Thanked 55 Times in 39 Posts	Don It was the S link, bought one on ebay and it solved the problem. Thanks alot. David