1915 doubles!!

jvm · 01-27-2020, 05:05 PM

anyone else have this problem ??

It does have a light trigger pull

Doubs · 01-27-2020, 08:44 PM

I've never had a Luger double on me.

Check your sear and firing pin engagement surfaces. If someone has filed/stoned them down to "improve" the trigger pull, they may have taken them too far.

Also inspect the sear bar to make sure it doesn't have crud in it that's interfering with proper function.

DavidJayUden · 01-27-2020, 10:18 PM

So you are saying that some times the gun fails to strike the primer, yet other times it double fires?
dju

DonVoigt · 01-27-2020, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jvm

anyone else have this problem ??

It does have a light trigger pull

I've seen it a couple times; so far only with mismatched pistols.

Like Doubs said, check and make sure it is clean.

Sear bar spring being weak can be a cause, as can someone messing with the sear engagement to give you that light trigger pull.
Lugers just don't have nice, light trigger pulls- if they do they probably are borderline for "doubling". JMHO.

HerrKaiser · 01-27-2020, 10:39 PM

David,

I think what he is saying is that he has two separate 1915 Lugers. One doesn't fire or even hit the primers, the other double fires.

DavidJayUden · 01-27-2020, 11:19 PM

Gawd I hope so. I'm getting confused!
dju

Bill_in_VA · 01-28-2020, 08:23 AM

My AE will occasionally double.

DonVoigt · 01-28-2020, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HerrKaiser

David,

I think what he is saying is that he has two separate 1915 Lugers. One doesn't fire or even hit the primers, the other double fires.

Really?

I read one 1915 with a light trigger pull that doubles.

Pretty "cryptic" post, if three of us read the same two short sentences and reach 3 different conclusions!

DonVoigt · 01-28-2020, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill_in_VA

My AE will occasionally double.

Was it made in 1915 too?

HerrKaiser · 01-28-2020, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Really?

I read one 1915 with a light trigger pull that doubles.

Pretty "cryptic" post, if three of us read the same two short sentences and reach 3 different conclusions!

Don,

I was referencing his other thread about a 1915 FTF that he posted about the same time as he started this one.

Bill_in_VA · 01-28-2020, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Was it made in 1915 too?

Doubtful. 😁

jvm · 01-28-2020, 01:43 PM

I should have stated the artillery 1915 doubles.

In another post I have a 1915 4 inch that did not strike the primer... FTF

jvm · 01-28-2020, 01:46 PM

I might add the 1915 Artillery in in pristine condition and all matching, so is the 4 inch .

From the comments I will check for old great/oil build up
Thanks for your help

lugerholsterrepair · 01-28-2020, 02:30 PM

I had a pistol that doubled. I checked out the trigger spring and someone had replaced the lost original with a ball point pen spring. Resulted in a VERY light and smooth trigger pull but doubles and triples.

rhuff · 01-28-2020, 02:37 PM

I had two(2) Lugers that would double, and BOTH had very light trigger return springs/trigger pulls!!! I replaced the springs, and no more doubling!! It is impressive when a Luger doubles.......that action is fast!!!

Armin · 02-01-2020, 01:26 PM

If a Luger doubles it sometimes comes from a weak trigger bar spring. If this little flat spring is too weak the trigger bar cannot catch the firing pin quickly enough while the toggle moves back into the ready to fire position. You can remove the spring and bend it a little to put more force on the trigger bar. But then the trigger becomes harder to be pulled.
Armin.

mrerick · 02-01-2020, 09:00 PM

The little plunger at the front of the sear bar is the disconnector.

If it remains stuck out of the sear bar it can cause doubling when it encounters the trigger again at the end of the Luger's action cycle. Any dirt or grit in that plunger is suspect. Push it in and see if there is any resistance.

Grip can contribute to doubling too. If it's too lose, the gun can rock in your hand.

rhuff · 02-03-2020, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrerick

Grip can contribute to doubling too. If it's too lose, the gun can rock in your hand.

This ^^^^^^. The Luger is not a difficult handgun to "bump fire"!!

Freischütz · 02-04-2020, 03:02 PM

I had this problem with a 7.65mm. A good cleaning solved it.

Mister Sunshine · 02-04-2020, 05:02 PM

Would someone please tell me how to enter a post? For the life of me I can't figure out how to do it.

01-27-2020, 05:05 PM	#1
jvm User Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 34 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	1915 doubles!! anyone else have this problem ?? It does have a light trigger pull

01-27-2020, 10:39 PM	#5
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 848 Thanks: 784 Thanked 861 Times in 411 Posts	David, I think what he is saying is that he has two separate 1915 Lugers. One doesn't fire or even hit the primers, the other double fires. __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

01-28-2020, 08:23 AM	#7
Bill_in_VA User Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Southwest Virginia Posts: 373 Thanks: 771 Thanked 554 Times in 198 Posts	My AE will occasionally double. __________________ John 8:32 reive (riːv) vb (Military) (intr) dialect Scot and Northern English to go on a plundering raid [variant of reave] ˈreiver n e.g., " Some view the Border Reivers as loveable rogues."

01-28-2020, 02:30 PM	#14
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,940 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	I had a pistol that doubled. I checked out the trigger spring and someone had replaced the lost original with a ball point pen spring. Resulted in a VERY light and smooth trigger pull but doubles and triples. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 l[email protected] 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-28-2020, 02:37 PM	#15
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,291 Thanks: 2,709 Thanked 972 Times in 717 Posts	I had two(2) Lugers that would double, and BOTH had very light trigger return springs/trigger pulls!!! I replaced the springs, and no more doubling!! It is impressive when a Luger doubles.......that action is fast!!! __________________ Need DWM breechblock #21

01-27-2020, 08:44 PM	#2
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,698 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,687 Times in 554 Posts	I've never had a Luger double on me. Check your sear and firing pin engagement surfaces. If someone has filed/stoned them down to "improve" the trigger pull, they may have taken them too far. Also inspect the sear bar to make sure it doesn't have crud in it that's interfering with proper function.

01-27-2020, 10:18 PM	#3
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	So you are saying that some times the gun fails to strike the primer, yet other times it double fires? dju

01-27-2020, 11:19 PM	#6
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Gawd I hope so. I'm getting confused! dju

01-28-2020, 01:43 PM	#12
jvm User Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 34 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	I should have stated the artillery 1915 doubles. In another post I have a 1915 4 inch that did not strike the primer... FTF

01-28-2020, 01:46 PM	#13
jvm User Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 34 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	I might add the 1915 Artillery in in pristine condition and all matching, so is the 4 inch . From the comments I will check for old great/oil build up Thanks for your help

02-01-2020, 01:26 PM	#16
Armin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 6 Posts	If a Luger doubles it sometimes comes from a weak trigger bar spring. If this little flat spring is too weak the trigger bar cannot catch the firing pin quickly enough while the toggle moves back into the ready to fire position. You can remove the spring and bend it a little to put more force on the trigger bar. But then the trigger becomes harder to be pulled. Armin.

02-01-2020, 09:00 PM	#17
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	The little plunger at the front of the sear bar is the disconnector. If it remains stuck out of the sear bar it can cause doubling when it encounters the trigger again at the end of the Luger's action cycle. Any dirt or grit in that plunger is suspect. Push it in and see if there is any resistance. Grip can contribute to doubling too. If it's too lose, the gun can rock in your hand. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

02-04-2020, 03:02 PM	#19
Freischütz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Eastern Washington Posts: 125 Thanks: 9 Thanked 26 Times in 19 Posts	I had this problem with a 7.65mm. A good cleaning solved it.

02-04-2020, 05:02 PM	#20
Mister Sunshine User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Cherry Valley, Ca. Posts: 94 Thanks: 0 Thanked 29 Times in 20 Posts	Would someone please tell me how to enter a post? For the life of me I can't figure out how to do it.