Besides The 1902 Fat Barrel

cirelaw · 02-21-2020, 02:42 PM

Were they issued to any other models? Eric

ithacaartist · 02-25-2020, 12:49 PM

There were other Commercial 9 mm guns pre-WWI, so I wouldn't be surprised. I'd consult the three volume Sturgess & Gortz...or Ron Wood.

JTD · 02-25-2020, 01:07 PM

The fat barrel would be noted on the Cartridge Counters, American Eagle, and commercial. I think some early Swiss guns may be fat barrel also.

Dwight Gruber · 02-25-2020, 04:20 PM

There are four short-frame Old Model 9mm reported in the Commercial database; all are questionable.

I think Eric is talking about the Cal. 9m/m magazines. They were available at least through 1913; the 1913-1914 MANUFRANCE catalog lists them specifically for French franc FF5.25 (the standard magazine was FF5).

--Dwight

Vlim · 02-25-2020, 05:51 PM

Recently identified 2 fat barrels with the same serial number. Not a good sign either

JTD · 02-25-2020, 07:22 PM

Thanks Dwight, I get it now.....

Ron Wood · 03-08-2020, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlim

Recently identified 2 fat barrels with the same serial number. Not a good sign either

I keep a list of 1902 Cartridge Counter fat barrels and there a two duplicate serial numbers reported and a possible third one. I have personally seen both of one of the duplicates (and I know which one is original!).
Ron

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Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	There are four short-frame Old Model 9mm reported in the Commercial database; all are questionable. I think Eric is talking about the Cal. 9m/m magazines. They were available at least through 1913; the 1913-1914 MANUFRANCE catalog lists them specifically for French franc FF5.25 (the standard magazine was FF5). --Dwight

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Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	Recently identified 2 fat barrels with the same serial number. Not a good sign either

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JTD User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Posts: 425 Thanks: 217 Thanked 408 Times in 149 Posts	Thanks Dwight, I get it now.....