New Luger Owner Here!

Dubar · 06-13-2021, 11:15 AM

Hi folks, just got my first Luger this past week and got permissions to post on the forum so here I am.

Always wanted a luger since I was a kid back in the 50s, had a toy luger that melted when I left it in the rear window of my dad's Buick during the summer

Dad was in the 9th Air Force in WW2 and mom was a Welsh nurse. All my uncles and my moms sister (also a nurse) were also in the war too so all things WW2 are kinda in my blood.

Anyway, spotted this luger on one of the auction sites and placed a bid, ended up winning the thing.

I know it's a mutt, but it's my mutt and the holy grail of firearms for me. I could buy a higher priced luger but just don't want to at this time, plus I wanted a shooter.

Here's the writeup that was posted on the auction site:

Fine condition WWII German Luger in 9mm that was made by Mauser and is coded "42" on the toggle with a "42" date on the chamber for 1942. Pistol is a renumbered matching import that shows likely police use with a sear safety. Gun is import marked under the barrel but does not seem to be a Russian Capture. Action is smooth and functions fine. Bore is bright with strong rifling and gun will make a fine shooter or for use by a reenactor. Metal finish is a full reblue with some handling wear. Checkered walnut grips have a good fit and no cracks or chips. Magazine is modern production and fits and functions fine. Tough to find a reasonable priced Luger these days that will work as an entry level collectable, for use at the range or for a carry and display gun for a reenactor.

Best I can determine it's a police luger, at least in part due to the sear safety. The stamp on the barrel appears to be some form of Berlin Police Armory Acceptance Stamp. It also has the GAI MIA FL import stamp on the underside of the barrel.

The bore looks fine to me, much better than the bore of some of my WW2 rifles that I have shot in the past 2 years (I've only really gotten into "acquiring firearms the past 3 years even though I've owned firearms for almost 60 years).

Thanks for letting join the forum, I need to do a lot of looking before I start asking questions and making comments.

Let me know what you think of my luger. I've done the tuning fork thing on the slide and it sounds perfect. I've had it apart down to removing the firing pin and all parts look good and well lubed. I bought 2 spare Mec-Gar mags, the mag that came with it only has "Made In Holland" stamped on it, nothing more.

Anything else I should look at before I shoot it? I've run several snap caps thru it and everything seems to function normally.

Eugen · 06-13-2021, 11:56 AM

Congrats on your first Luger. Hopefully it will be an excellent shooter for you. Check out the forum's FAQ section as it is more of a tutorial. You'll find answers to your questions there, and more. Enjoy!

Dubar · 06-13-2021, 12:17 PM

Thanks Eugen, like your cup!!!

Doubs · 06-13-2021, 01:55 PM

You have an honest police Luger that was, at some point in time, repaired by an official facility as indicated by the mark (HZaJt18) on the sear bar, likely indicating replacement. The barrel was replaced, maybe at the same time as it has the bore diameter marking but isn't serial numbered to the gun. Between 1928 & 1934, Lugers that were rebarreled for police use were marked on the right side of the new barrel with "PTV" and an eagle. In 1934 that changed to "PT" and the eagle as on your Luger. The new barrel on yours was obviously installed after 1942.

IMO you've done well for your first - there WILL be more - Luger.

Dubar · 06-13-2021, 02:34 PM

Thanks Doubs! Aarron Davis' book "Standard Catalog Of Luger" shows the intertwined TP and refers to the Berlin Police Armory Acceptance Stamp starting around page 99-100 and several other places after that, but didn't show the eagle.

And thanks for clearing up the HZaJt18 stamp, couldn't hardly make that out.

The sear safety had me wondering...why would you remove the side plate while the gun is still loaded?!?!?! But then I read that sometimes you could push on the plate and make the gun go BANG.

STEINBVG · 06-13-2021, 02:58 PM

Congrats. I,m also new to Lugers. Only have one.
Are you planning to shoot yours at all? regularly?Have you?
How does it perform?

rhuff · 06-13-2021, 03:06 PM

Congrats on your first Luger. It looks fine to me. Let us know how it performs at the range. Enjoy!!

Dubar · 06-13-2021, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEINBVG

Congrats. I,m also new to Lugers. Only have one.
Are you planning to shoot yours at all? Have you?
How does it perform?

I plan on shooting it tomorrow, will let ya'll know how it goes.

gunnertwo · 06-13-2021, 03:55 PM

Congrats! The sales description you posted was accurate. I always appreciate an honest description when I'm making a purchase.

This won't be your last Parabellum.

G2

spangy · 06-13-2021, 09:30 PM

to the Forum Dubar
You sure hit the gound running ... nice to see

jeb111 · 06-14-2021, 10:31 AM

Welcome to the world of Lugers! Your off to a great start and smart move joining the forum, this is invaluable to any Luger enthusiast. Good luck only getting one, just do your research because lessons can be expensive in our hobby! All the best!
Jim

Dubar · 06-14-2021, 11:26 AM

Thanks everyone!

I WAS going to shoot today, but I had eye surgery last week and yesterday had a problem with bleeding. I called the doctors office this morning and they said to come in. Ended up I have a mild infection so they've called in a prescription, had to cancel the range reservation as a result. maybe next week.

I haven't replaced anything on the gun, but have been thinking about getting a Wolff spring kit. Good idea or should I just wait until I shoot and see how it does?

Mac Cat · 06-14-2021, 11:28 AM

More importantly, I think you should get an aftermarket magazine - MEC GAR are affordable and very reliable.

Also, go idea not to shoot until your eyes are healed up. Your Luger might not roar so much, but you never know when someone is going to unload his Tokarev or a 44 magnum next to you. My Dr suggested I wait a couple of months before resuming shooting after I got cataract surgery.

G.T. · 06-14-2021, 11:50 AM

A little practical advice? Now that you've cleaned and (liberally) oiled your Luger, and are range ready, don't change anything.....yet!

To prepare to shoot, install an empty mag and lock the toggle back, remove the empty mag and replace it with a mag with ONE round in it! Drop the toggle train, make sure the safety is off and shoot it downrange. The empty should eject crisply (find it and inspect the primer for signs of piercing or over pressure?) Ok, if that all went fine, do the same procedure and load three rounds! If the Luger fires, feeds, and locks open you are good to go! IF, the toggle doesn't completely close on the next chambering round, only then start considering a new mainspring?....
The Luger is a real fun gun the shoot! Kind of snotty and snappy at the same time, nothing else like it!, best to you, til.....lat'r.....GT...

Dubar · 06-14-2021, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac Cat

More importantly, I think you should get an aftermarket magazine - MEC GAR are affordable and very reliable.

Also, go idea not to shoot until your eyes are healed up. Your Luger might not roar so much, but you never know when someone is going to unload his Tokarev or a 44 magnum next to you. My Dr suggested I wait a couple of months before resuming shooting after I got cataract surgery.

Got 2 Mec-Gar mags last week.

Good idea about not shooting, didn't think about the concussive shock waves generated by the big calibers impacting my eye but I have felt that before.

Dubar · 06-14-2021, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.T.

A little practical advice? Now that you've cleaned and (liberally) oiled your Luger, and are range ready, don't change anything.....yet!

To prepare to shoot, install an empty mag and lock the toggle back, remove the empty mag and replace it with a mag with ONE round in it! Drop the toggle train, make sure the safety is off and shoot it downrange. The empty should eject crisply (find it and inspect the primer for signs of piercing or over pressure?) Ok, if that all went fine, do the same procedure and load three rounds! If the Luger fires, feeds, and locks open you are good to go! IF, the toggle doesn't completely close on the next chambering round, only then start considering a new mainspring?....
The Luger is a real fun gun the shoot! Kind of snotty and snappy at the same time, nothing else like it!, best to you, til.....lat'r.....GT...

I'll give that a go, thanks! For what it cost, I did order the Wolff kit a little while ago, when it comes in I'll hang onto it until I see how the gun performs with what's in it.

jeb111 · 06-14-2021, 06:59 PM

Dubai, range reservations? Yuk, I am so spoiled living in WY I can go out my back door anytime I want. I forget how hard it can be for many people to just go target shooting. If it is an indoor range then I can understand. Don’t push the eye your Luger isn’t going anywhere!
Jim

Dubar · 06-14-2021, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeb111

Dubai, range reservations? Yuk, I am so spoiled living in WY I can go out my back door anytime I want. I forget how hard it can be for many people to just go target shooting. If it is an indoor range then I can understand. Don’t push the eye your Luger isn’t going anywhere!
Jim

I actually belong to 2 ranges, the closest is an indoor range for pistol caliber only (the one I was going to) and an outdoor range an hour away. The outdoor range is a club, they have a 10, 25, 50, and 100yd range plus skeet/trap ranges and is 1/2 the price the indoor range is. I may drop the indoor range next year and just belong to the outdoor club, I don't mind the drive plus I got my son-in-law and nephew to join.

Must be nice to walk out back and blast away

Dubar · 06-15-2021, 08:17 AM

Searching the boards I found this:

HzAJt18 mark (Heeres Zeugamt Ingolstadt, depot 18)

You guys (are there any females on the forum?) probably already knew that but I'm trying to collect what data I can in one spot.

mrerick · 06-15-2021, 11:01 AM

Welcome to the forum. We focus on Lugers and discussing them here. They are birthed from the factory without gender assignment. I'm not even sure there is a place to indicate the gender of our members in registration.

I do recommend you download our FAQ PDF document. It's free, and has a remarkable amount of reference information. This will increase your knowledge about the Luger you have (a 42 date/42 concealment code is not so common). You have a "shooter" grade Luger, and should enjoy it thoroughly.

I hope you heal soon. Respect your doctor's advice. I've been unable to shoot for several weeks after cervical neurosurgery = and while the urge is there to get out to the range, I've learned patience.

Follow the FAQ link at the top of every forum page, and get a copy of our reference document...

Marc

06-13-2021, 11:15 AM	#1
Dubar User Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: Virginia Posts: 34 Thanks: 25 Thanked 29 Times in 14 Posts	New Luger Owner Here! Hi folks, just got my first Luger this past week and got permissions to post on the forum so here I am. Always wanted a luger since I was a kid back in the 50s, had a toy luger that melted when I left it in the rear window of my dad's Buick during the summer Dad was in the 9th Air Force in WW2 and mom was a Welsh nurse. All my uncles and my moms sister (also a nurse) were also in the war too so all things WW2 are kinda in my blood. Anyway, spotted this luger on one of the auction sites and placed a bid, ended up winning the thing. I know it's a mutt, but it's my mutt and the holy grail of firearms for me. I could buy a higher priced luger but just don't want to at this time, plus I wanted a shooter. Here's the writeup that was posted on the auction site: Fine condition WWII German Luger in 9mm that was made by Mauser and is coded "42" on the toggle with a "42" date on the chamber for 1942. Pistol is a renumbered matching import that shows likely police use with a sear safety. Gun is import marked under the barrel but does not seem to be a Russian Capture. Action is smooth and functions fine. Bore is bright with strong rifling and gun will make a fine shooter or for use by a reenactor. Metal finish is a full reblue with some handling wear. Checkered walnut grips have a good fit and no cracks or chips. Magazine is modern production and fits and functions fine. Tough to find a reasonable priced Luger these days that will work as an entry level collectable, for use at the range or for a carry and display gun for a reenactor. Best I can determine it's a police luger, at least in part due to the sear safety. The stamp on the barrel appears to be some form of Berlin Police Armory Acceptance Stamp. It also has the GAI MIA FL import stamp on the underside of the barrel. The bore looks fine to me, much better than the bore of some of my WW2 rifles that I have shot in the past 2 years (I've only really gotten into "acquiring firearms the past 3 years even though I've owned firearms for almost 60 years). Thanks for letting join the forum, I need to do a lot of looking before I start asking questions and making comments. Let me know what you think of my luger. I've done the tuning fork thing on the slide and it sounds perfect. I've had it apart down to removing the firing pin and all parts look good and well lubed. I bought 2 spare Mec-Gar mags, the mag that came with it only has "Made In Holland" stamped on it, nothing more. Anything else I should look at before I shoot it? I've run several snap caps thru it and everything seems to function normally. Attached Thumbnails

06-13-2021, 11:56 AM	#2
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 790 Thanks: 394 Thanked 631 Times in 334 Posts	Congrats on your first Luger. Hopefully it will be an excellent shooter for you. Check out the forum's FAQ section as it is more of a tutorial. You'll find answers to your questions there, and more. Enjoy! __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

06-13-2021, 02:58 PM	#6
STEINBVG User Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: NEW JERSEY Posts: 143 Thanks: 117 Thanked 176 Times in 70 Posts	Congrats. I,m also new to Lugers. Only have one. Are you planning to shoot yours at all? regularly?Have you? How does it perform? __________________ Happy to have found the Gevarm and Voere. Last edited by STEINBVG; 06-13-2021 at 04:00 PM.

06-13-2021, 03:06 PM	#7
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,291 Thanks: 2,709 Thanked 972 Times in 717 Posts	Congrats on your first Luger. It looks fine to me. Let us know how it performs at the range. Enjoy!! __________________ Need DWM breechblock #21

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06-13-2021, 12:17 PM	#3
Dubar User Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: Virginia Posts: 34 Thanks: 25 Thanked 29 Times in 14 Posts	Thanks Eugen, like your cup!!!

06-13-2021, 01:55 PM	#4
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,698 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,687 Times in 554 Posts	You have an honest police Luger that was, at some point in time, repaired by an official facility as indicated by the mark (HZaJt18) on the sear bar, likely indicating replacement. The barrel was replaced, maybe at the same time as it has the bore diameter marking but isn't serial numbered to the gun. Between 1928 & 1934, Lugers that were rebarreled for police use were marked on the right side of the new barrel with "PTV" and an eagle. In 1934 that changed to "PT" and the eagle as on your Luger. The new barrel on yours was obviously installed after 1942. IMO you've done well for your first - there WILL be more - Luger.

06-13-2021, 02:34 PM	#5
Dubar User Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: Virginia Posts: 34 Thanks: 25 Thanked 29 Times in 14 Posts	Thanks Doubs! Aarron Davis' book "Standard Catalog Of Luger" shows the intertwined TP and refers to the Berlin Police Armory Acceptance Stamp starting around page 99-100 and several other places after that, but didn't show the eagle. And thanks for clearing up the HZaJt18 stamp, couldn't hardly make that out. The sear safety had me wondering...why would you remove the side plate while the gun is still loaded?!?!?! But then I read that sometimes you could push on the plate and make the gun go BANG.

06-13-2021, 03:55 PM	#9
gunnertwo User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nampa, Idaho Posts: 623 Thanks: 826 Thanked 930 Times in 363 Posts	Congrats! The sales description you posted was accurate. I always appreciate an honest description when I'm making a purchase. This won't be your last Parabellum. G2

06-14-2021, 10:31 AM	#11
jeb111 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: May 2018 Location: wyoming Posts: 277 Thanks: 712 Thanked 331 Times in 133 Posts	Welcome to the world of Lugers! Your off to a great start and smart move joining the forum, this is invaluable to any Luger enthusiast. Good luck only getting one, just do your research because lessons can be expensive in our hobby! All the best! Jim

06-14-2021, 11:26 AM	#12
Dubar User Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: Virginia Posts: 34 Thanks: 25 Thanked 29 Times in 14 Posts	Thanks everyone! I WAS going to shoot today, but I had eye surgery last week and yesterday had a problem with bleeding. I called the doctors office this morning and they said to come in. Ended up I have a mild infection so they've called in a prescription, had to cancel the range reservation as a result. maybe next week. I haven't replaced anything on the gun, but have been thinking about getting a Wolff spring kit. Good idea or should I just wait until I shoot and see how it does?

06-14-2021, 11:28 AM	#13
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 731 Thanks: 2,095 Thanked 610 Times in 329 Posts	More importantly, I think you should get an aftermarket magazine - MEC GAR are affordable and very reliable. Also, go idea not to shoot until your eyes are healed up. Your Luger might not roar so much, but you never know when someone is going to unload his Tokarev or a 44 magnum next to you. My Dr suggested I wait a couple of months before resuming shooting after I got cataract surgery.

06-14-2021, 11:50 AM	#14
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,507 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,653 Times in 1,004 Posts	Hi Dunbar A little practical advice? Now that you've cleaned and (liberally) oiled your Luger, and are range ready, don't change anything.....yet! To prepare to shoot, install an empty mag and lock the toggle back, remove the empty mag and replace it with a mag with ONE round in it! Drop the toggle train, make sure the safety is off and shoot it downrange. The empty should eject crisply (find it and inspect the primer for signs of piercing or over pressure?) Ok, if that all went fine, do the same procedure and load three rounds! If the Luger fires, feeds, and locks open you are good to go! IF, the toggle doesn't completely close on the next chambering round, only then start considering a new mainspring?.... The Luger is a real fun gun the shoot! Kind of snotty and snappy at the same time, nothing else like it!, best to you, til.....lat'r.....GT...

06-14-2021, 06:59 PM	#17
jeb111 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: May 2018 Location: wyoming Posts: 277 Thanks: 712 Thanked 331 Times in 133 Posts	Dubai, range reservations? Yuk, I am so spoiled living in WY I can go out my back door anytime I want. I forget how hard it can be for many people to just go target shooting. If it is an indoor range then I can understand. Don’t push the eye your Luger isn’t going anywhere! Jim

06-15-2021, 08:17 AM	#19
Dubar User Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: Virginia Posts: 34 Thanks: 25 Thanked 29 Times in 14 Posts	Searching the boards I found this: HzAJt18 mark (Heeres Zeugamt Ingolstadt, depot 18) You guys (are there any females on the forum?) probably already knew that but I'm trying to collect what data I can in one spot.

06-15-2021, 11:01 AM	#20
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Welcome to the forum. We focus on Lugers and discussing them here. They are birthed from the factory without gender assignment. I'm not even sure there is a place to indicate the gender of our members in registration. I do recommend you download our FAQ PDF document. It's free, and has a remarkable amount of reference information. This will increase your knowledge about the Luger you have (a 42 date/42 concealment code is not so common). You have a "shooter" grade Luger, and should enjoy it thoroughly. I hope you heal soon. Respect your doctor's advice. I've been unable to shoot for several weeks after cervical neurosurgery = and while the urge is there to get out to the range, I've learned patience. Follow the FAQ link at the top of every forum page, and get a copy of our reference document... Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.