Sleeping With The German Enemy`

cirelaw · 09-13-2021, 07:23 PM

https://www.vintag.es/2015/07/pictur...-in-world.html

Doubs · 09-13-2021, 09:48 PM

There will always be those who collaborate with the enemy if it makes their lives easier. They are unwilling to accept life as it would be if they refused to associate with invaders. Over the course of history, there have been times when the enemy stayed long enough to assimilate with the natives and become for all intents and purposes the same. In WW2 France and other countries occupied by the Germans, the suppression of the people and harsh treatment kept the hatred strong and when the Germans were evicted, those who had collaborated paid the piper... as they should have.

Kiwi · 09-14-2021, 08:22 PM

There seemed to be a lot more "partisans" after the Germans were gone.

Only about 3% to 5% of the population were actually in "The Resistance"
But it is easy to attack women - ask the Taliban

sheepherder · 09-14-2021, 08:25 PM

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... those who had collaborated paid the piper... as they should have.

We do what we must do to survive.

flydive · 09-15-2021, 03:51 AM

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, those who had collaborated paid the piper... as they should have.

I see you agree with what the Talibans are doing now.

Bill_in_VA · 09-15-2021, 09:40 AM

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I see you agree with what the Talibans are doing now.

Surely we aren't trying to inject morality into war, are we?

flydive · 09-15-2021, 10:16 AM

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Surely we aren't trying to inject morality into war, are we?

Sure not, just consistency ;-)

guns3545 · 09-15-2021, 11:33 AM

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Sure not, just consistency ;-)

CONSISTENCY???

Remember always: The winner of a conflict gets to write the history of it.

Unless you mean by "consistency" that winners always rid themselves of those who disagree with them.

Mister Sunshine · 09-15-2021, 08:15 PM

When I clicked on the website yesterday I got to see one picture. When I ask to continue my computer went bonkers. My speakers started blasting an alarm and the screen was filled with dire warnings. I clicked on the site just now and i was shown a quiz about animals.

cirelaw · 09-15-2021, 09:36 PM

This is who you need!

gunbugs · 09-16-2021, 02:40 AM

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When I clicked on the website yesterday I got to see one picture. When I ask to continue my computer went bonkers. My speakers started blasting an alarm and the screen was filled with dire warnings. I clicked on the site just now and i was shown a quiz about animals.

A couple days ago, I was surfing the news online and got a fake "microsoft" hack warning that locked my screen and gave me an audio warning that my IP address had been hacked. I immediately physically disconnected my internet cable, and forced a shutdown of my computer, as that was what the warning said NOT to do. As I am positive that the REAL Microsoft would never generate that type of a warning/situation, I immediately knew it was fake, and I wasn't about to call the phone number they wanted me to call and follow a hackers instructions. Best bet is to shutdown and /or disconnect when these things happen. My computer seems to work just fine after all that.

schutzen-jager · 09-16-2021, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mister Sunshine

When I clicked on the website yesterday I got to see one picture. When I ask to continue my computer went bonkers. My speakers started blasting an alarm and the screen was filled with dire warnings. I clicked on the site just now and i was shown a quiz about animals.

link working with no problems here -

MikeP · 09-17-2021, 12:49 AM

Kind of a puerile subject that is not going to bring about a very productive discussion. Anyone into history and social aspects should be pretty well versed in this.
We've all seen the countless photos of head shavings and beatings many, many, times.
Just my personal opinion.

flydive · 09-17-2021, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by guns3545

CONSISTENCY???

Remember always: The winner of a conflict gets to write the history of it.

Unless you mean by "consistency" that winners always rid themselves of those who disagree with them.

Consistency.

If "we" justify the use of torture against the enemy, then we should not whine or complain if "they" use it against us.

If we say "we" should take revenge against the collaborators, we should not whine and complain if others do the same.

Simple.

Mister Sunshine · 09-17-2021, 03:25 PM

I tried the site later and it worked without a hitch.

Doubs · 09-17-2021, 04:04 PM

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I see you agree with what the Talibans are doing now.

The Nazis overthrew the legitimate government of France. The Nazis were the enemy and those who collaborated with them paid the price when the LEGITIMATE government of France was returned to power. They were traitors but there wasn't widespread murder of them. They were humiliated and became social outcasts. It was appropriate IMO.

The Taliban have overthrown the legitimate government of Afghanistan. The Taliban are the enemy and they, like the Nazis, are carrying out a murderous agenda against any and all who they think may oppose them. I do not approve of what they are doing.

If you can't understand the difference then you and I have nothing further to discuss on this matter. You may have the last word.

flydive · 09-17-2021, 04:33 PM

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If you can't understand the difference then you and I have nothing further to discuss on this matter.

Well, I guess I will not sleep tonight

m1903a3 · 09-18-2021, 04:35 PM

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CONSISTENCY???

Remember always: The winner of a conflict gets to write the history of it.

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History shall be kind to me, for I shall write it.
- Winston Churchill

I do recommend reading his History of the Second World War (six volumes!)

09-13-2021, 07:23 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Sleeping With The German Enemy` https://www.vintag.es/2015/07/pictur...-in-world.html Attached Thumbnails

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09-13-2021, 09:48 PM	#2
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,698 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,687 Times in 554 Posts	There will always be those who collaborate with the enemy if it makes their lives easier. They are unwilling to accept life as it would be if they refused to associate with invaders. Over the course of history, there have been times when the enemy stayed long enough to assimilate with the natives and become for all intents and purposes the same. In WW2 France and other countries occupied by the Germans, the suppression of the people and harsh treatment kept the hatred strong and when the Germans were evicted, those who had collaborated paid the piper... as they should have.

09-14-2021, 08:22 PM	#3
Kiwi User Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Wrong side of the Delaware river Posts: 307 Thanks: 215 Thanked 435 Times in 172 Posts	There seemed to be a lot more "partisans" after the Germans were gone. Only about 3% to 5% of the population were actually in "The Resistance" But it is easy to attack women - ask the Taliban

09-15-2021, 08:15 PM	#9
Mister Sunshine User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Cherry Valley, Ca. Posts: 94 Thanks: 0 Thanked 29 Times in 20 Posts	When I clicked on the website yesterday I got to see one picture. When I ask to continue my computer went bonkers. My speakers started blasting an alarm and the screen was filled with dire warnings. I clicked on the site just now and i was shown a quiz about animals.

09-17-2021, 12:49 AM	#13
MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	Kind of a puerile subject that is not going to bring about a very productive discussion. Anyone into history and social aspects should be pretty well versed in this. We've all seen the countless photos of head shavings and beatings many, many, times. Just my personal opinion.

09-17-2021, 03:25 PM	#15
Mister Sunshine User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Cherry Valley, Ca. Posts: 94 Thanks: 0 Thanked 29 Times in 20 Posts	I tried the site later and it worked without a hitch.